The EAGLELAND Fan Game

This looks great and promising!

……….:O

This…. looks amazing…

Look really gret!

I love the eagle rock in the first picture. ;O

looks better than mother 4

Interesting story, battle system à la Mario&Luigi, good EB graphics… I might give this a try, whenever it gets released. 😀

It would be great if this was finished before the MOTHER 4 release, so we can get entertained while waiting XD

Malt shop? As in… Sweet, delicious ice-cream treat? I love this Roach guy already!

This looks so awesome!

EEEK! This looks really good!!

WHAAAAAaaaaA???? This looks fantastic!

DAAAAAYUM!

Now I have both this AND Mother 4 to look forward to :bee:

*:D

I guess certain bb codes won’t give you emoticons then. Oh well, it’s fine.

Mother 4 and now this.

Yay!

Apple of Enlightenment being one of a nine piece set?
Intriguing…

This game looks like some dude rubbed his fuzzy pickle all over it. I mean, come on!

Very similar style to Earthbound; I much prefer this over “Mother 4” and its bubbly style. I cannot wait to explore the worlds I see before me, and I really hope that soundtrack is up to par.

There are definitely some very good fan games (and I hate to call them that as they look just as good as official games) coming our way these next few years. With Mother 4, Mother remake, Unearthed, and now Eagleland all mother like games this is an exciting time for mother fans.

I prefer the color of the characters in MOTHER 4 fangame but overall this one looks great too

This definitely looks better than Mother 4!

So along with Mother 4, can we send this to Itoi to play? It’s that high quality.

Is it storyline between MOTHER 2 and MOTHER 3.Most like EarthBound 64 storyline between MOTHER 2 and MOTHER 3?

If you are talking about Eagleland then from what I can tell the story is not related to mother just set in the mother 2 universe.

@RandomGuardian
Great idea! We should send the first Japanese version(provided there is one) to him and see if he likes it or has any issues with it. ^.^

I agree wahowaho the characters could use more colors. Definitely… Blue hoodie and brown panties is an insult to the interesting color patterns on all previous iterations of protagonists in Mother games.

still looks better than M4 in general

Its not a competition.

I think it is.

It looks better than Mother 4, and doesn’t have the audacity to call itself “Mother.”

The character designs aren’t final, I’m not opposed to modifying them at some point, thanks for all the comments everyone. : ) and let’s cut out the better than mother 4 nonsense, little has been revealed about either game. I’m glad they look different, let’s celebrate the fact that us EB fans are creating cool content.

Why are so many people making a big deal about the name Mother 4? It’s a fan sequel, it makes sense..

WOAH, that looks amazing!

Those screens are really sexy though. That eagle rock, the cavemen, the tornadoes, the malt shop…

@Richard Izgeigh

I think the creator is going for a more serious tone.

More serious than Mother 4, but too serious to possess that quirkiness and very silent darkness as Earthbound or Mother? If this darkness is so pronounced, it may just seem like a cheap fan game.

Ooh, looks amazing!

Looks great! Does anyone know when mother 4 is plsnned for release?

december

“It looks better than Mother 4, and doesn’t have the audacity to call itself “Mother.””

Yeah, pretty much.

“Why are so many people making a big deal about the name Mother 4? It’s a fan sequel, it makes sense..”

Yeah, a FAN sequel. Not official. It shouldn’t be called Mother 4.

Guys why don’t we take it easy on mother 4 fan game. I have followed the project for a long time and I know that all of the people in that project are working very hard to try and make it live up to a true mother game. Lets not judge the game before any of us plays it. I have great respect for anyone that makes a game because i understand how hard it is. I don’t believe that the mother 4 crew means anything by the name other than the fact that they wanted to convey how much this project means to them and how serious they are taking the project. The mother games leave very big shoes to fill and if they can successfully do it then that is just amazing.

Ok. Look.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with Mother 4 calling itself Mother 4, and you should all be ashamed of your own selves for judging it for that.

They’re working very hard on it and they care very much about making the best possible game they can for all of you. Don’t be disrespectful and don’t be stupid with elitist assumptions like that.

Because that attitude is snotty, misplaced, rude, and completely disrespectful of their hard work for absolutely no good or important reason just because you have to go that far to look for something this ridiculous to nitpick, just for nitpicking’s sake.

Respect and appreciate what you’re getting, or feel free to be quiet about it and ignore it. But don’t you dare start judging a fangame for having whatever name for it’s own title that it wants to have. You’re not making it so you don’t get to make that decision or pass judgement on it, because it’s not your choice to make.

You can either take it, or leave it. But don’t start acting superior and full of yourselves for assuming disrespectful assumptions towards the team that are completely untrue, based entirely on your own ignorance. Make your own game, then you can name THAT game whatever YOU want. And we won’t judge you for that title, so don’t judge them for this title. You don’t have the right.

Now let this be the end of THIS topic, because it doesn’t merit any further discussion.

When the Mother 4 team went on record saying they will not change the name.of the game, despite the protest of a lot of fans (and it’s not fans being nitpicky, it’s really out of respect for Itoi and Mother series)…. then yeah, I think it’s ok to voice disapproval.

But names aside, this game looks a lot more interesting than Mother 4. Being on the run seems a lot more fun than being everybody’s heroes who gets money sent to them from previously visited towns.

Both are deviations from the Mother formula… which is more or less making fun of americans by having most NPC’s oblivious to alien invasions and lost in their own self-absorbtion.

Eagleland.might be able to juggle both being on the run and still oblivious NPC’s (the WANTED billboard is a nice touch)… but I don’t see Mother 4 succeeding in that feel.

To be clear, The only comment I said in this thread was “The character designs aren’t final, I’m not opposed to modifying them at some point, thanks for all the comments everyone. : ) and let’s cut out the better than mother 4 nonsense, little has been revealed about either game. I’m glad they look different, let’s celebrate the fact that us EB fans are creating cool content.”

I think Mother 4 looks great, can’t wait to play it. Please everyone stop talking about Mother 4! THIS IS A DIFFERENT GAME <3

Yeah, agreed.
Also, I can’t wait to play it – I’m paying attention to the Starmen.net topic, too. I don’t care if it takes until 2018, it looks to be worth it.

Please stop talking about Mother 4!

I love those cave guys, not to mention tornado alley. Also, that food… In these pictures alone we have a restaurant, pizza place, malt shop, and saloon. And just get a load of those fantastic fruits. Both my interest and appetite have been aroused. Keep up the good work Roach!

Looks like bullshit. I wouldnt wipe my ass with that shit of a game.

@Ninny

like your name

this mother looks better than earhbond fan game

Can’t wait for this!!! Mother 4 looks SO awesome, and now I have another EB fan game to look forward to! But I like Mother 4 better.

The problem with a fangame calling itself Mother 4 has nothing to do with Itoi saying someone else could make Mother 4. I’m pretty sure he meant Nintendo or a company like Brownie Brown.

The problem is that it isn’t Mother 4. That would be like me writing and publishing War and Peace 2. It’s not an actual sequel to War and Peace because Tolstoy didn’t write it, and it takes a lot of audacity for any author to think they could. The same applies to Mother.

If you approve, fine. Just don’t get up in arms or act like you don’t understand why people would be upset that some random people decided to make Mother 4 without permission or Itoi involved in some capacity.

I just don’t understand why a game needs a creators blessing to be a sequel. Halo 4 turned out just great without Bungie, and there have been plenty of Mario sequels that are fantastic called SMW 2, SMB5, or anything.

I just can’t upset myself with such a silly topic.

Anyhow, good luck, Roach!

Hey, Oh My, there probably will be no Mother 4 (at least not in the U.S.) so it’s totally OKAY for them to use the name. It’s unofficial sure, but it’s about as official as we’re going to get.

Logic. You guys don’t do it.

The reason I think that it is okay for Mother 4 to be called Mother 4, is because Itoi has stated that he does not want to make any more Mother sequels. He has stated both that 1. Animal Crossing is Mother 4, 2. He wants to be the player this time, and he wants Mother 4 to be fan-made. So fans started to make Mother 4. Itoi has basically Itoi HAS given approval for Mother 4, because he wants it to be fan-made, and fans are simply doing what Itoi has asked. Please, let this be the end of Mother 4 talk on this thread. I am, like others, excited for this game as much as I am for Mother 4.

do you have a website

I agree with Mariotti. I have read that they are done with the franchise so fan made sequels are all we could get. Now if only someone would make a sequel for Conker’s Bad Fur Day……

And what’s not logic Mr.Oh My?

This looks amazing. I love how faithful the graphics are to EathBound, while making them look just the right bit more intricate. And that urban looking city — just wow. I really hope to see the day this game is finished and released. 😀

And about Mother 4… Wow. I didn’t realize that there was such disapproval of something that die-hard fans are devoting years of their free time into making for everyone else for free. I figured everyone was as excited as I am.

“A rose by any other name would smell as sweet”.

They could call the game “Steaming Pile Of Poop” and it will still play the same. How does calling it Mother 4 in any way affect Itoi’s trilogy as it is? Those games already exist, and nothing can rewrite them. You can choose to accept the fan game or not, but the name doesn’t change anything about anything.

Official or not, they’re all works of fiction; you can’t get all butthurt about it not being “real”.

Amen neonix. Amen.

One more thing, does anybody know where to get there hands on a virus free Mother 1+2 emulator rom?
Because I have played Earthbound but not Earthbound Zero. Or Mother 3 and I would like to play Mother 4 when it releases but I really need to catch up!

No one is “butthurt” over it not being real. Mother 4 is not an official game of the series, and therefore should use a different name. It’s not a comment on the quality of the work. It’s pretentious to call your fangame Mother 4.

You act like you’re a little ticked off Oh My. I don’t understand the big deal about why Mother 4 should use a diffrent name. Mother 3 will NOT GET AN OFFICIAL SEQUEL!!!! So like I’ve said before, it’s totally okay, and I think most people think that way.

No, I’m not ticked off. Not even a little. I’ve tried to explain the position of the fans who do not approve of Mother 4 as a title. Instead of trying to respect or understand our position, you and others have basically called our opinion stupid.

Mother 3 could still have an official sequel, but that’s not the point. What do you think will happen if Nintendo want to release a Mother 4? Also, what makes this fan game better than all the rest in that it deserves the title Mother 4? By calling it Mother 4, the makers are distinguishing their game over the rest of Mother fangames.

Also, the example of Halo 4 was made above. That is an officially licensed game. Nintendo is not publishing Mother 4, nor will it be available via any console.

I’m not trying to persuade you into abandoning your opinion. Simply understand that there are a lot of fans not happy with some random people making a Mother 4 when it’s not an official title, nor made with Itoi at the helm. While I think someone could take over the series, someone with an established name in the industry would be preferable, and again, officially so.

My 2 cents.

I don’t think the game (Mother 4) looks bad at all (though the graphical style isn’t my cup of tea, per se) but let’s face it; if it didn’t have the title “Mother 4” it would not have accumulated the attention it has.

Whether it deserves this attention is lost to that it gathered it for its name more than anything else (the website barely featured anything beyond several screenshots and a few updates, and not just for months, but we were faced with these same images for YEARS).

I don’t believe that the person who started the project (mother 4) necessarily did so with a pretentious intent; I believe the title made sense to them. But who isn’t going to curiously type in “Mother 4″ after beating Mother 3, is my question. As for who will type in …”Cognitive Dissonance”, or… “insert-mother-fangame-title-here” is highly reliant to web forums and their views and what-have-you.

Either way, I am excited for any decent-looking Mother fangame out there (Mother 4). I’ll add this to my list as well.

Anonymous, you’re basically accepting the developers’ deceit then.

We should all be really upset about video games.

I have never called your opinion stupid Oh My. I’m just trying to understand it.

Maybe I’m just stupid!lol

Alright I hate to be a chatty cathy but let me narrow it down: Since it’s not official it shouldn’t be called Mother 4? So let me ask you one question Oh My. What is your opinion on a non official Mother game in general? Do you think they shouldn’t be made?

Raiden, you’re narrowing it down a little too much. There were many reasons why I object to it being called Mother 4.

Non-official Mother games are perfectly fine. I’m not against that. I wrote a script for a new game and recorded a soundtrack, so I don’t object to any unofficial games.

“Developers’ deceit” sounds a bit conspiratorial. Accepting it? Oh my, The entirety of that syntactic arrangement is rather silly.

I am not as mouth-agape as some about the prospect of Mother 4, but beyond the name the game looks pretty solid. On the same slippery slope upon which you ride, to write-off a game for its title is just as bad as embracing it for the same reason. I found into Mother 4 through the express way of the ubiquity of its name (more-so than insert-other-fangame-title-here), no doubt, but I will determine its quality by playing it.

On that note, I think a game that is named Mother 4 needs no assistance getting around, but this game “Eagleland”? It looks just as qualified as Mother 4, but I doubt it will experience the same popularity.

It’s not about the game. It’s about the title. I have no interest in playing most fan games. The only reason I gave Mother 4 the time of day was to elaborate on the ethical problems surrounding the use of that title. You’ve basically admitted that the developers named it that specifically for advertising purposes.

Um… I don’t see a point to this argument, to be honest… Why are you discussing the name of a game that hasn’t even been released? It’s not like they’re selling it or anything, they aren’t…

FireFlyMelody, I respectfully suggest that you not take part in the discussion if you do not see the point. No one forced you to comment. 🙂

I’m not trying to be rude here, but why this argument still going on? Heck, why is this argument even here? I mean, this post was posted over two weeks ago and had very little to do with MOTHER 4.

I understand that they probably should have chosen a different title. I understand where the people who disagree with the title are coming from. I don’t agree with it but I at least see your point. But please, can we just put this argument thing to rest already? After all, it’s only a fan game. It’s mere existence isn’t going to ruin the official games.

But whoever’s right, lets just be done with this and move on.

@PSIPumpkin

I agree.

I have to agree with PSIPumpkin. Let’s move on.

I don’t see the problem. We’re arguing civilly. We’re not calling each other names or anything. It was your decision to read these comments. It’s as simple as not reading them if you don’t want to see them. No one forced you to.

You cannot put in your own opinion about Mother 4 and then tell us to stop. You’re not Mato. This is not your site. We’re not breaking any rules of conduct. We’re discussing and arguing about this in a friendly manner.

Now, if you would like to engage in this discourse, you are welcome to, but do not expect me or anyone else to stop just because you want us to. I say that with peace and love.

“You’ve basically admitted that the developers named it that specifically for advertising purposes.” – Oh my

“I don’t believe that the person who started the project (mother 4) necessarily did so with a pretentious intent; I believe the title made sense to them.” – me

Yes, it made sense for them to take advantage of Google results by calling it Mother 4, thereby granting them more interest from the Mother fandom.

You’re making assumptions slanted by your pessimism surrounding the game, to a degree where you fallaciously metamorphosed what I said into a meaning that could fit your argument. By my statement I meant that it made sense chronologically. That is my presumption; this cannot be debated.

I don’t disagree that their game has a lot of most likely undeserved attention. Either that, or other fangames don’t have the attention they deserve, at least this one (Eagleland). Every update on the (Eagleland on Starmen.net) thread, the creator shows more interesting content. What bothers me is that this Eagleland (on Starmen.net) thread was started about a month ago, and the creator has so much more visual information about his game than Mother 4. It was just announced.

Rather than arguing about Mother 4, I would rather like to discuss this new, fresh game. This game deserves more attention.

“You’re making assumptions slanted by your pessimism surrounding the game, to a degree where you fallaciously metamorphosed what I said into a meaning that could fit your argument.”

No need to break out the thesaurus. I didn’t change what you said at all. It’s still there in your post. I gave you my interpretation of what you said in the minds of the developers. You’re assuming that they created “Mother 4” innocently, as if they really wanted to make a real sequel. However, doing so ignores other games other fans made, and places them more prominently on Google results. They probably knew that.

Eagleland looks great. I might play it.

This looks superior to Mother 4. The story seems more dark and heartwarming. I also PK love that the main character is named Reid which I assume is a starman.net Reidman reference. I’d donate my earthbound cartridge to the cause.

Haha Anonymous’s comment on 4/20 (Easter) is quite effetist and angry. Dude should have blazed and praised.

Well whatever the case I hope both games turn out great. I can’t wait for the release of Mother 4! It sounds promising from what I’ve read on the website and from what I’ve seen from the screenshots. It looks like it could’ve been made by the guys who made Earthbound!

Haha Anonymous’s comment on 4/20 (Easter) is quite effetist and angry. Dude should have blazed and praised.”

I think you’re confusing angry with a relative opposite term – reserved. Easter is watered down and impotent.

“You’re assuming that they created “Mother 4″ innocently, as if they really wanted to make a real sequel. However, doing so ignores other games other fans made, and places them more prominently on Google results. They probably knew that.”

Doubtful that is was their preliminary instinct for naming it that, but I refuse for the sake of logic to devolve into a debate about “whose assumption is correct.” I do have disdain for conspiracy theories though; tinfoil hats are far from in-season.

Effetist Hipister smashes Nuganess… but in all seriousNESS: I found eagleland, then tried to re-find it, and I kept getting Mother 4 results which “reserved” the hell out of me. So I completely agree with Effetist Hipster in that regard; however, I cant name any other projects named mother 4 and considering M4 comes out this winters (I am super pumped), I would not necessarily oppose Eagleland being re-titled Mother 5 upon it’s release. Oh oh oh and I agree about Easter, I just think blazing and praising is funny. BoInG!!!

BTW: I think the Clockwork Orange reference is PK panty moistening.

“I do have disdain for conspiracy theories though; tinfoil hats are far from in-season.”

Calling my statement/opinion a conspiracy theory is borderline passive aggressive. Can you come up with an actual logical reason why the Mother 4 team would NOT consider that by calling their game “Mother 4,” they inevitably receive more interest through Google and more attention than other fangames?

Again, calling their game “Mother 4” is unfair to other fangames. What gives them the right to reserve that name as if their game is actually as good as one designed by Itoi?

I think both fangames look great. The end.

I agree with Anonymous. They both look great, I’ll play them both, and I could care less about what they’re called. Pointless comment arguments are why I left the last blog I followed…
And I understand the point, but really, who cares?! It’s a name, it’s not like they’re copyrighting it or anything!

Well if this is a pointless argument then why don’t you leave FireFlyMelody?

“Calling my statement/opinion a conspiracy theory is borderline passive aggressive.”

It’s true though…

“Can you come up with an actual logical reason why the Mother 4 team would NOT consider that by calling their game “Mother 4,” they inevitably receive more interest through Google and more attention than other fangames?”

Sure. If I were making a mother fangame, and I noticed that chronologically there are the following: Mothers 1, 2, and 3, then I would probably want to name the one I’m working on (which Itoi has stated will never come out on his end) “Mother 4”.

That’s an “actual logical reason” to name it Mother 4. That’s what you asked for.

“Again, calling their game “Mother 4″ is unfair to other fangames. What gives them the right to reserve that name as if their game is actually as good as one designed by Itoi?”

It’s “unfair”? Huh. Again… you throw out silly words.

As for “what right” they have…I believe you ought to research what exactly what constitutes having a “right”; it appears you may exaggerate the stretch of that term. I understand it bothers you in principal but hold strong to your opinion and understand that the way you think is correct for you.

I wouldn’t really call this much of an argument, but for someone so anti-Mother 4, you sure are turning this into publicity for the game. I think I may have forgotten what this thread is even about.

Oh yes – EAGLELAND

“Effetist Hipister smashes Nuganess…”

I don’t think you know what a hipster is, and I don’t know what an ‘effetist’ is (Do you mean elitist? There are no results for “effetist” on any reputable site), so that statement doesn’t appear to apply to me.

“I found eagleland, then tried to re-find it, and I kept getting Mother 4 results which “reserved” [held back?] the hell out of me.”

Mother 4 has been around longer, and there isn’t really a youtube channel, website, facebook – anything for it. Hopefully this game receives all this in the way of advertisement.

Is there any particular reason why midis are being used in 2014? Seriously? I know it’s a relatively minor thing to gripe about, but this isn’t 1999. It only takes a couple minutes to arrange a midi in a sequencer like FL or Ableton and make it sound a thousand times better. It’s gonna be hard for me to play this game and deal with the horrible instrumentation. At least use the Earthbound soundfont or something. It’s not hard. At all.

That being said, this does look like a very fantastic game. The presentation is very well done.

@Raiden: Because we shouldn’t be arguing! This is a blog for people who love EarthBound, right?
Then why don’t we all just TRY to get along?! At the very least, stay polite…
And also I’m still here because I find the fact that this argument is still present kind of sad.

@doclight
Because it’s being made with RPG Maker 2003, a program the creator is very skilled in. RM2k3 does support mp3s, but midis work a lot better with it.

@FireFlyMelody Well I’m gonna say this has gone way off subject. It was about Eagleland but it turned into Mother 4. An argument about Mother 4. This comment post isn’t even about Mother 4. Oh well pointless or not we need to get back to the subject matter. And F.F.M. I’m sorry if I came off as a jerk but you know. I was kinda in this argument too. Oh well.

Anonymous, you’re getting hostile and rude. You’re not winning any arguments like that.

“It’s true though…”

My I kindly suggest you look up what “true” means since you seem to think I’m confusing “right.” You calling my opinion a conspiracy theory is, in fact, insulting and rude. You stating that your opinion is “true” is condescending and wrong. Subjectivity does not equal objectivity.

“Sure. If I were making a mother fangame, and I noticed that chronologically there are the following: Mothers 1, 2, and 3, then I would probably want to name the one I’m working on (which Itoi has stated will never come out on his end) “Mother 4″.”

Far from logical since you’re not working for Itoi, Nintendo, Creatures, or even Brownie Brown. If you’re making a fangame, you’re not making Mother 4. You’re making something inspired by the original series. If you call it Mother 4, you are equating it with the rest of the series in terms of quality, and you are also placing your fangame above all others. If you don’t see that, I can’t help you.

“It’s “unfair”? Huh. Again… you throw out silly words.”

You’re turning this into a pissing match. Stop. I’m trying to logically discuss something, and you’re insulting me.

“As for “what right” they have…I believe you ought to research what exactly what constitutes having a “right”; it appears you may exaggerate the stretch of that term. I understand it bothers you in principal but hold strong to your opinion and understand that the way you think is correct for you.”

This is where you also turn your own argument to crap due to insulting language rather than incitement. “Right” in this context means the opposite of “privilege.” Mother 4 does not have a right to call itself Mother 4. They are not officially affiliated with any of the original developers or publishers. They are a group of people making a fangame that they’re giving out for free. It’s not official, therefore they do not have a right to call it Mother 4.

“I wouldn’t really call this much of an argument”

You’re anonymous, so I’m not going to bother to continue to argue with you. You’re not worth it if you’re going to be rude.

Okay, this is the end of this.