Is Pokey Blue?

I actually never related the random people turning blue with Porky at the end of the game.. makes sense, yeah I think he really turned blue. He also has a light purple skin tone in Mother 3… probably the blue tone wore out due to so many time and space travel and such.

I definitely think he turned blue like the other enemies in the game.

@gds, I never realized that, either. I only thought he blue due to the time-travel thingie, but at least Mato presented the “possessed by Gyigas is blue” point.
Maybe it relates to Happy-Happyism, too.

@Gooptek whoa, the happy-happyism theory just completely blue my mind.

I hadn’t really thought about it before, but always assumed it was just the glass. His hair is also a different color; are there any other examples of people’s hair changing color in addition to their skin turning blue?

I voted no on instinct because I assumed it was only because of the last room’s atmosphere.

Then I read Mato’s comment about how all the humans Giygas possessed turned blue and I was like “Well, I shouldn’t have voted no because now I’m convinced he actually IS blue.”

That’s what I get for not reading first 🙂

You bring up a great point mato, I was sortof convinced that Pokey was blue because of glass ( or paint, lets get a crazy fan story up now!) but you do bring a extremely good point.

going to have to go with yes today. YEESS MAAAANNN

I think it’s the just the lighting of the location. Enemies only turned blue on the overworld so that players could distinguish between them and NPCs

Hmm, I’ve always thought he was blue and didn’t consider it was the glass, but you’ve got me thinking now…

I think that the only reason that Pokey wasn’t blue in the that one scene was due to some sort of palette/system limitation. All other humans corrupted by Giygas have a blue tint to their skin, and Pokey’s skin remains blueish in MOTHER 3. Or it could just be some sort of oversight/inconsistency by the developers.(Which is more likely).

During Pokey’s pre-boss speech in front of Giygas, his skin looks normal colored. Plus, even if human enemies have blue skin on the overworld, they appear normal-skinned in battle.

My guess is that Pokey’s skin is normal and it’s just the lighting that makes him look blue. Overworld enemies have odd-colored skin so you can distinguish them from NPCs.

Yep, he’s definitely blue. Been drinking too much colloidal silver.

Great point mato! Most of the human enemies are blue

IIRC, one of the early NPCs says something about people with blue faces being under Giygas’ control. So it makes sense that he has a blue face in that sprite.

Well there is officially literally nothing left to talk about this dead franchise.

I think the blue faces only serve to distinguish enemies from regular NPCs. That’s why their faces don’t appear blue when you actually battle them. I think there’s one that does, but I can’t remember. With Pokey’s it’s the opposite. I’m sure his skin is altering because of the time travel, but if you look at the sprite it can also appear to be a result of the glass. Plus there’s still his hair. Really I think it was just a decision the designers made to have him appear more menacing for the final battle.

DexterTheThird speaks the truth.

Sith = Red Eyes
Earthbound Baddie = Blue Skin

(Sorry to all Smurfs, Andorians, Na’vi, and Crescendolls. Also specific apologies to: Nightcrawler, Mystique, Beast, Gonzo, Cookie Monster, Sam Eagle, Grover, The singer from 5th Element, Dr. Manhattan, Aayla Secura, and The Blue Man Group)

Unless I’m remembering wrong, his skin isn’t blue on his final overworld sprite. I doubt it would change as soon as he was done talking, so…

He’s being underlit by the consoles in his mech. That much is true.

And I think the lighting makes him blue. It seems to me that if he were intended to be blue he would always be blue at that point in the game and afterwards.

I don’t think anyone literally has blue skin. It’s only a way to help players identify bad-guys. If all the enemies were supposed to actually be blue, their battle sprites would appear that way, and they don’t.

To me, he appeared blue to better combine with the tone of the scene. More artistic and expressive than anything. I don’t mind people cosplaying him being blue, I think it’s pretty fun to draw that conclusion and use the symbolism associated there, but I don’t feel it’s actually how it is.

Eh, I actually forgot that his sprite before the battle was normal-colored…
Well, here is my theory. May be full of holes, but I’m trying to make some sense here with all I can gather to keep my beliefs, so inconsistency is something to expect.
So here it is; Pokey follows Gyigas for his own purposes, not because he’s possessed. That’s why outside of battle he appears normal-colored. However, during battle, he lets himself be possessed so that Gyigas could use his mecha effectively, as I believe the mecha was designed by Gyigas, and he would know to use it better than a chubby young brat (I might be wrong).
Now as for the regular enemies… Well, I dunno. The only thing I could think of is that Gyigas brainwashes them into thinking Ness is an enemy; once brainwashed, they need Gyigas’ control no more, and they returned to normal once engaged in battle.
Just a few thoughts I gathered up. Hope they’re not just a pile of soaked rice paper.

I think it’s just the atmosphere of the last level and the glass Pokey is seen through; especially the latter, since his usually blonde hair appears gray.

Thank you Mato! I was a bit upset that people kept insulting our cosplays like that. So thank you for agreeing with us and standing up for us like that

I thought that Giygas took over Pokey/Porky’s mind in the end, it just took him a bit longer since his enemy was Ness, as many people believe Ness was Pokey/Porky’s only friend until Fourside when Ness made it to the top floor, that made Pokey/Porky and his parents were in the building which they may have been kicked out, which may have made them dislike Pokey/Porky even more.

(Sorry for double posting) Minor error: that made Pokey/Porky *flee.

It’s space. Everybody else is in a robot body. His body is dead and dead people turn blue. At the end of the game he’s fleshy pink again. So let’s just agree he’s blue and dead, but alive and pink. Schrodinger’s piggy, I guess.

Never thought of this. Definitely pokey looks blue

I always thought it was some kind of weird thing with the sprite and nothing more. That argument with the blue human enemies was really convincing though.

I always thought it was just the lighting and the tinted glass of his mech that made him look that way, as part of the atmosphere of the location you’re in. And I thought his appearance in Mother 3 was unrelated, and was just the effects on his repeated time-traveling.

I also had always been under the impression that Pokey had never been under Giygas’ control, and was working with Giygas of his own free will, or possibly even using him (especially with mocking lines like “What an all-mighty idiot!”). And instead of “turning back to normal” after Giygas is defeated, he just time-travels away and continues his evil plots (leading to his fate in Mother 3).

Not only has he turned blue, but he smells like pigs butt too!
*Shakes fist menacingly.*

All the humans who were corrupted by giygas had a blue tint to show they were enemies like the annoying reveler pokey was also an enemy corupted by giygas so it kinda makes sense.

or…Pokey still worship Happy-Happylism!Blue..Blue Oops!lol just kiddin’!

I always thought he turned blue at the end of Earthbound, then pale blue(almost white) in Mother 3.

but then again Porky is tan in his unused death sprites…

CONFUSED

Porky in MOTHER 3 isn’t blue (he has a normal sking tone), neither he is in Smash Bros Brawl. Conclusion? He isn’t blue here either.
Also, brainwashed human enemies by Giygas are not blue in their full sprites, just in their field sprites. This means that here it might be the crystal of the machine.
That’s my theory, and to me, it makes total sense.

^Porky is purple in Mother 3 and Smash Brothers.

Porky is actually grey in Mother 3 Chivi.

^^@Batguy ^@bitter anon
One of you says purple, the other says grey. And I always saw him with a very pale, but normal skin tone.
:/ I think we just can agree to disagree, since none of us sees the same color.

I’ll stay with my theory.

Sorry for replying again but please don’t attack me just because I think differently 🙁 (that wouldn’t be okay…)

I’m going to say no. The blue-skinned enemies was more.than likely a design choice to distinguish them from NPCs rather than a choice in story.

I think the same thing may apply here. Pokey really isn’t seen as a huge threat or an enemy you fight until this point… maybe they chose the blue tint again to reaffirm, yes… he is a bad guy. Go beat him!

^
Wow, your explanation makes total sense! 😀 (there’s no sarcasm here!)

Due to the way light works and that naturally faces contain a lot of red in them, having something like blue glass in front of a face or blue reflected light would make his face appear closer to a black color than that blue color.

I have to disagree, Anonymous. The fact that you enter battle with him tells you he is an enemy and you should go beat him.

But even if that was the reasoning behind it, then he does still ‘turn blue’, even if not for the sake of the story.

Seems this may have to be a question for Itoi if anyone ever gets a chance to shoot it his way.

I always thought he had green zombie style skin by then…

I don’t think he’s blue. He isn’t blue in Mother 3, so why would he turn blue and then go back?

^@Leeaux
I think the same. It would make no sense to be blue in one and then be another color in another one.

Pokey is a traitor. Can’t believe he betrayed me.

Personally, I always thought it was the effects of time travel on him and it was starting to drastically age him (the full drastic effects of which we’ll see in Mother 3).

Never thought about Giygas taking over his mind, though, that’s interesting. Probably the only reason I go with aging is because of what happens in Mother 3. If that game had never been released, I’d probably be a lot more unsure and say that your theory is also good.

Or it could just be the effects of tinted glass altering his appearance. (Personally I’m going with aging. And in regards to the “not blue in Mother 3” comment, I don’t really see it that way; here, the overall appearance of the sprite has a greyish tone to it, and I’d say that Porky himself has a blue-grey tone to him. Not EXACTLY grey, but it’s still pretty close, IMO.)

Isn’t there a bag lady with a blue battle sprite?

I think the reason is because you are not to know that Pokey is a villain until up to that point. If you look at how we depict many villains in stories, movies and in pop culture, they all have wacky colours to them (examples would be the witch from Wizard of Oz she’s bright Green, almost 70% of all Disney Villains).

Its for the observer to make this separation that the evil is not them which makes it easy to identify what evil is. This would also support why enemies in the game appear to be blue.

This is just a quickie explanation open for discussion.

I believe in the theory that he’s controlled by giygas in some way, especially since in mother 3 which just happens to be after giygas’ defeat, his skin tone is back to normal.

I think he did turn blue, because of the time traveling.

I believe that his blue skin was a result of improper protection when he traveled to the Cave of the Past. This justifies why he appears as a fleshy human instead of a cliche robot, and further justifies his statements in MOTHER 3 on how excessive time travelling caused him to age ridiculously fast and turn a sickly blue-gray color. Sure, he appears in a robotic spider-mech in EarthBound, but it doesn’t appear to offer the same level of protection as a robotic body. This also explains why Ness and co. must transfer their brains into robot bodies. All of this supports the thought that Pokey’s blue discoloration was the result of improper protection during time travelling.

I think he did not turn blue; the reason I say this is because Pokey had some kind of malice in his heart so powerful that he did not need Giygas to take his mind over, only give him a slight nudge in the direction of evil.