MOTHER 3 Hard Mode

I love you for giving me a plausible reason to play Mother 3 again.

(not that I need one)

It is a little challenging at first, but when chapter 7 starts, the increased difficulty isn’t noticeable. It does have a couple of “that one boss” moments from that point on, but I wouldn’t mind seeing a harder Hard Mode.

EmpoleMew I wonder if its different if you don’t start hard mode till chapter 4?

what were the original special requirements one had to fulfill

I think it was a tad too easy… It was a bit challenging at first, but after about ch.7… just what empolemew said.
I wouldn’t mind something that TRIPLED enemy HP, but I’m one of those people who likes a challenge :p

j309902gr: It’s hard to read, but here: http://handbook.fangamer.com/page121.html

I thought about doing the hard mode from a different angle, like making it so you only get half the experience or you can only level up to level 20 or something. But i didn’t have the time or energy left that would’ve been needed to test and polish such modes.

Hard Mode was a fun addition to the game, but a bit easy. I would like to see an extreme difficulty setting. 😀

Oh, man having a level limit of 20 would be so hard.

Maybe by Chapter 7 the difficulty should double again?

I remember this from back when someone found it on Starmen.net, but I don’t use the fan translation, so I won’t be able to use it 🙁

Hard Mode was difficult in the first few chapters, but after that it didn’t seem hard at all. I almost feel like I might have accidentally turned it off in Chapter 4, but I didn’t change anything at the naming screen, so it’s doubtful.

I would say fix hard mode after Chapter 7.
Make an extreme mode that triples enemy HP or something.
Add a time trial mode or speedrun mode of some sort.

Well, I just tried it out about a month ago. I can’t get past Mr. Passion…

The only bad part for me was the Pork Tank, and I think that was largely due to the fact that Salsa already has poor stats to begin with. I actually had to grind a bit before fighting it. Other than that I didn’t really have a problem, even though I could tell that the enemies stats and HP were boosted.

I tried it about two weeks ago, I found it to be pretty difficult. I found myself relying on combos more when I played hard mode.

Hey, I didn’t even know about this. Neato. Too bad I can’t allow myself to try it, as rhythm combos don’t work at all on the crappy emulator I’m playing it on, and the game’s difficult enough as it is when the best combo you pull off is 2 hits.

I had played through all of Hard Mode. The difficulty felt much more believable the second time around. There were two boss fights that gave me an incredible challenge, specifically the Pork Tank in Chapter 3 and Miracle Fassad in Chapter 8, the latter which forced me to grind for a couple of hours in the sewers… thank god for that hot spring.

I’d also say, if possible, that it would be fun to give the boss monsters certain attacks from other enemies that would make the battle harder. Like the NKC able to summon high ranking pigmasks.

@Ice Sage

Why didn’t you try just using Salsa’s Mimic/ It may not be very useful, but you may get him to throw a cannonball, and each time that happens it cracks me up.

Someone’s been doing challenges of Kumatora lv 1 New game + on youtube. I think he/she’s been able to even take down the masked man with her.

@LakituAl

I did use Mimic pretty much every turn. The problem was Salsa’s low HP. All I can say is thank God for PK Thunder. Nothing was hard after that fight, though.

Last year I got a gold star on hardmode.
It’s really only much harder up to chapter 3 though. (Think the Pork Tank killed me once…)
Still, pretty fun.

Here’s a little tip that kinda defeats the purpose, but using the new game plus option you can give Salsa Duster’s best defensive equipment from chapter 7 and it’ll actually carry over. Makes the little guy much tougher, and it’s just fun to play around with. (He can’t unequip it and give it to anybody else though or it disappears)
He’s still not much of an attacker though.

Hey Mato, in the latest Earthbound Stuff on Ebay column of this site, there is “Zaxxon MOTHERbase 2000” for the Sega 32X 😛

Wait, there’s a New Game Plus? I never knew that.

The new game plus is just a glitch that starts the Psi users out with all of their abilities from the previous file (and Salsa with his equipment)
Just start a new game and immediately save over the old one. For some reason some stuff carries over.

I love hard mode. It’s a little unbalanced but I love level grinding, and since the other mother games are kinda easy (after 10+ years of playing) I really embrace hard mode and never play the game without it anymore! The toughest boss is probably the pork tank in chapter 3. That took like 5 levels of grinding.

I know some people have tried making hard modes of EB, and I’d love to see a complete one 🙂

On a slightly quasi-related note, there’s an excellent “hard mode” type hack of Super Mario RPG called “Super Mario RPG Revolution” that is also quite wonderful (edited enemy stats, moves, skills, characters can level to 50 instead of just 30, etc.). I highly recommend it!

why would you want a hard mode?

Are there any other added secrets? I know there’s the L+R menu, anything else?

I think the N.K Cyborg has the most health?( 15,000 )But the pork tank is the hardest.(hp:?)

What happens if you name yourself “HARD MODE” in Chapter 1, but then rename yourself a different name in Chapter 4?

^Hard Mode is turned off.

^Ah, I see. I thought so. Thank you very much.

I want the MOther 3 Fan Translation But My Visual Boy advance won’t allow it! I have the original mother 3 and I synced it on my VBA but it still won’t let me get it! Am I doing something wrong?

If you’re having trouble getting stuff working, see the instructions and troubleshooting guide here:

http://mother3.fobby.net/or/

If you’re still having trouble, it would be better to post for help here: http://forum.starmen.net/forum/Games/Mother3FanTranslation

@Mato, Thanks, i’ll have the translation soon

Maybe try making a difficulty called “Insane”. To enter Insane mode you’d have to name yourself “INSANE!” in Chapter 1. You get 1/2 the exp. ,Enemies have triple the health (except for bosses which have double the health) , and they do 1/3 more damage than usual.

Just a suggestion.

I just completed the game in Hard Mode. I didn’t notice too much of a difference after Chapter 7, no. But thanks for the challenge! 😀

For the record, I use both VBA and VBA-M to play the Mother 3 fan translation (English) all the time. I have no problems whatsoever with either emulator, however I do feel VBA-M is a bit more consistent with the frame rate. Both need to be have Frame Rate Skip set to Zero for best results with the combo system.

A hard mode? the game is hard enough as is(I suck at the combo system)! (btw, if you want to be able to save on a mac, make sure your emulator is VBA v1.7.2, and set the flash size to 64k, and make sure you have folder actions enabled for the Vba 1.7.2 folder as well as any folders within that folder. this is also true for the M1 fan translation)

Needs to be harder than that. I suggest a Ultimate Chimera mode. Triple Health. Increase enemy stats by 1.5. Done.

Heh, talk about perfect timing, I was just about to get to that in my translation notes and was wondering what would be good for a harder mode if I ever made one.

Pleeasae make an insanity mode! Lol, game would be a lot more funner haha

This is an English translated “Insanity Mode” I made using the Mother 3 editor created by Jeffman. The following edits have been made:

-100% boost to all enemy hp.
-10% further boost to boss hp.
-25% stat boost to all enemies.
-Severely reduced bonus for back attack on enemies.
-Very tough last boss.
-300% boost to exp.

The exp boost was necessary to balance out the game and make the game a little less insane early on. You will now end the game around level 80. A few of the enemies have remained the same to prevent glitches. This is extremely hard and still takes a large amount of patience even with the exp boost.

link: http://www.2shared.com/file/cGxup0dd/2377_-_Mother_3__E__INSANE.html

I’m trying to get the needle on Tanetane Island first in a Hard Mode run. Master Eddy seems nigh impossible to beat, but I will do it or die trying.

Okay, forget Master Eddy. He’s a total pushover compared to the well-shielded, PSI-slinging, undying monstrosity that is the Barrier Trio. The fact that I’m not taking Kumatora or Duster just makes things one billion times worse. Also, Lucas and Boney are at level 53 each.