MOTHER 1+2 Font Help

It was always confusing to me.

Um…was EB0’s font really that bad? I didn’t think so. *Ducks from onslaught of thrown vegetables*

Really lame joking aside, if you are going to change it, don’t change it too much. I’m not trying to troll or anything, that’s just my opinion on it.

How about a Metroid / Kid Icarus font.. didn’t alot of the same people from Ape work on those games?

..or I always loved the megaman font.

I think EarthBound Zero would look nice with either the GBC Dragon Warrior (Monsters I, Monsters II: Cobi, Monsters II: Tara, DWI&I, DWIII) font or the Lufia II: Rise of the Sinistrals font.

@Ice Sage: yeah, it’s really that bad AND hard to read xD

I dunno of a any cool fonts mato, and I suck at graphics so, sorry :/

I don’t know if this is the best font, but it’s something to add to your list of things to consider:

http://overcode.yak.net/12

Here are some more fonts to consider. Some of these are ripped from various games:

http://www.zophar.net/utilities/fonts.html

I’d like to think I’m decent with pixels. If you give me a basic idea and maybe a tilemap I could most likely help you out. You can reach me at ratheethransu@yahoo.com if you do indeed consider.

Although I must admit I’ve not worked with fonts before.

Here’s an example of my work that is clearly not font.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/SSC88/mother2-1.png

Well, i am going to school for graphic communication, so this would be something i’d be doing once i get my degree. Unfortunately, I only just started the program and I don’t take the Typography class until the next spring semmester. Bummer.

Attack a Hal Labs. game with another Hal Labs. game!
What I mean is that the font of Kirby’s Adventure and the one in Kirby Super Star are both readable and decent.

I was just browsing the 8×8 font archive on Zophar.net and I think that the fonts for Final Fantasy VIII and Legend of Dragoon both look pretty good. They are simple, thick letters but they are very easy on the eyes.

Pokemon Red and Super Mario Bros. 2 both had good fonts.

I was fine with the EB0 font, i just didn’t like the start-and-stop text

I can do fonts pretty well, Ive been hacking Earthbound and SMW for about 4 years

Typography is actually a hobby of mine. A while ago, I designed an 8×8 pixel font with the intention of maximizing readability. You’re free to use it:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/bjs0/Miscellaneous/8x8_ctr.png

There are no numbers or punctuation, but if you like it, I could easily be convinced to whip some up.

Im working on one set now, will post when done.

EBrent: the image file doesn’t seem to work, at least not for me for some reason 🙁

Weird, the image file showed up for me…

How about this?

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/bjs0/Miscellaneous/font.gif

http://s23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/bjs0/Miscellaneous/?action=view&current=font.gif

I could probably make some simple font. But I haven’t worked with fonts before…

Here is the font, I’m actually rather proud of it(I may use it myself on other things too).
http://i531.photobucket.com/albums/dd355/Luigis_No1/Font_EB0-1.jpg
I did use a 8×8 limitation but in a way I used 7×8 so the letters aren’t mashed together. hope you like it.

It’s not a NES or SNES game, but Pokemon Red, Blue, and Yellow all use the same fixed width font that I think seems pretty easy to read.

I think I can spend some time working on a font pretty quickly.

ebrent’s font is nice

I tried my hand at translating the EarthBound font to fit the restraints of the MOTHER font. I couldn’t find a full font set for MOTHER, so I’ve only been able to do the 52 letters and four punctuation symbols. Do you have a list of all the included characters and symbols?

link

Hey Mato, Steal the pokemon font. As Zaxtur said, it’s a nice fixed with font that game with the pokemon games.

I decided to be unlazy and look at the characters in the ROM file directly. After a little playing around, I modified the font some more and a few other things, like the menu border. Here’s what I came up with.

Name your characters
Prologue
Battle Menu
Battle Text
Talking to Mom
The font block of the ROM

I tried two different things with the menu border, just to see what did what. The first screen with the character naming shows what it looks like if the center is left black. The following screens in battle and talking to Mom show what it looks like when the third color is used. It picks up a background color and I’d assume it it will flash when a SMAAAASH!! attack is used in battle.

You probably don’t want any of that in the M1+2 hack, but I thought I’d note it in case you were wondering why there’s a difference between menu appearance in screens. Trimming it down makes it looks a lot nicer. Trimming down the font makes it look a hell of a lot nicer, too. It definitely makes the game a little easier on the eyes.

I’d probably look through some games by Intelligent Systems. Maybe there’s a good font to be found somewhere in their library of first party games. The skinny italic(?) font found in Link’s Awakening is pretty sweet (but maybe not the best for menu text and such… Anyway, at least I think it looks very nice when used for dialog. text.)

I always thought the Earth Bound Zero font was fine…hmm…wish I could help.

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/6008/fnt.png
his might be what you’re wanting.

KingDarian: Like I mentioned, I already used the EB font in that really old EB0 hack of mine, so I know how it looks in the game already 😛 In fact, I think some versions of my M1+2 in-progress hacks still have that font in there, you can see it in some of the in-progress shots.

This is serious… well, im thinking on a font but i cant get one. You really cant? “Something you will never lose is courage” By- The drugs tea of Saturn Valley.

I think it looks nice, although spacious. Just hack in VFW to make it work. 😛

I would if I could but it’d take another year, heh.

I’m still gonna play around with the EarthBound font, because I’m sure it can work somehow. I’ve tried widening each character by one pixel, and it makes it look a bit nicer, although some touch-ups are still needed, possibly even an extra widening of the lower case characters.
MOTHER with wider EarthBound font

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j303/SaturnStorm/lil-text.png

probably no good, but here it is anyway.

after like a week or two we should have another topic that is a contest for all the fonts

use the font from the old pokemon games. my favorite font ever

I don’t think Mario 2 has any lowercase letters in it’s font, does it? Mario 3 does, though, and it seems to have a font that’s pretty bold in comparison to most of the others that have been mentioned.

I’m not sure if people consider bold text to be a good thing or a bad thing, but it’s different anyway — and it looks pretty readable to me (except for those rather obese exclamation points).

To everyone suggesting the Pokéfont, here it is in action!

Let’s Start!
Who Are You?
Yummy!
Prologue take three
This lamp is shady
Battle without quarter

I think it’s pretty neat.

I finished my custom but I won’t be able to post it for about 5 hours.

I really, really like the look of the Pokemon font. Just throwing that out there.

I must admit, the Pokemon font does look nice in the game.
The only exception is the Prologue take three snapshot shows the text gets a mm too close, but that is the only case in the game soo….i say go for it!

Gotta catch the text!

I would agree,The font From the official
American translation of EarthBound 1(Mother 2),and the Fan Translation of EarthBound 2(Mother 3)is a better font.The unreleased EarthBound 0 (Mother 1)
font looks like an unused remake of the Times New Roman font.

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/6008/fnt.png
custom made by me, don’t have the tools to test or anything.

@KingDarian
Lovin’ that Pokémon Font!
@Mato: if VWF for mother 2 works (if somebody is working on it, and if it doesn’t have it already) and if you decide to use this font, are you going to use the default Earthbound font in Mother 2, or use the VWF Pokéfont from the GBA/NDS Pokémon games?

Jimmy Mother 2 has orange kid and asking for anything else is a sin.

I choose you, Pokefont!
(crowd cheering)
“Pokefont Pokefont”

That looks really awesome KingDarian, seriously!
It just fits so perfectly, i think it’d be extremely difficult to turn this font down.

Maybe you could use the “Apple Kid” font used on MOTHER 1+2 (MOTHER2’s font), but I’m not sure that’d work…

ugh. no pokefont please. I don’t wan’t to keep thinking I’m playing pokemon whilst playing Mother… that’d be kind of nightmarish really.

hey Mato, the fangamer site is strange… I cant register. whats happening?

hmm, maybe we should make a topic about this in the EBC forums….

when you finish the patch could you mske sure you begin from the part you last save on a japanese rom mother 2 is really hard to grind up on and im still in twoson T_T

i was working on a bunch of text font from earthbound zero together but vista paint butchers it up whenever you close it the entire thing messes the colors up the text is at the starmen.net EB0 walkthrough

Hey Mato, are you gonna expand the PSI text boxes in
battle? If you do, then could you fit Braincyclone and
Super Healing’s FULL names without the ugly abbriviations? If not, then you could put Healing Omega
(Lifeip has a pi and omega, why sholdn’t Healing?)
and Brainshock beta. Wait… are you gonna change the assist PSI’s “betas” into “omegas” like in M3?

On second thought, I sort of liked the Super Mario World font, I couldn’t find anything to dislike about it.

i made a font for messing around making an earthbound-esque game on gba a while ago. it’s vwf but it looked decent when it was fixed width. you can have it if you wan’t i don’t use it anymore:

http://i28.tinypic.com/e3tih.png

all 8×8 fonts look about the same tho lol, i say just pick something cute. the tail hooks probably are something not mother 2 ish, but maybe mother 1 i forget mother 1’s font.

Well, I did my own, partly for giggles, partly because I used to do stuff like this all the time for ZZT title screens, and mostly because I am bored out of my skull.

The font itself… although there are two fonts in the NES version, and this is the one that isn’t used, but it’s easier to read up here.

I also changed the borders for fun
Naming screen
Confirmation screen
The Story Thus Far
That’s as many as eight tens, and that’s terrible.
Ninten is so pimp, he doesn’t have items, he has goods.

The dash through the zero isn’t necessary, but I always feel more comfortable with it there (it’s because deep in my mind I always feel like I have to write down the password to continue).

It’s been a while since i’ve heard of such a problem….i would recommend the font from Link’s Awakening but that’s just me. Whatever, you wanna use, use it!

I was just going to suggest the Link’s Awakening font as well. In fact, I’m pretty sure I have that particular font in an .gif file somewhere on my hard drive from my Zelda fangame-making days. Let me know if you want it.

Kingdarian
your font is good but there is a problem
remember that many Mother Fans hate Pokemon and Many Pokemon fans hate Mother, im not saying that your font sucks, actually is one of the bests fonts that i have seen, but definitely some Mother fans won’t like a Pokemon Font in Earthbound.

to Mato here is my Zelda styled font:
http://s925.photobucket.com/albums/ad99/brillantloid1234/?action=view&current=Zeldafont.jpg

hope you liek it.

Well, this IS for the fans….i personally like pokemon since i was a kid, and i like Mother as well, i can’t hate either of them (i’m more of a Nintendo fan than anything else eh?)… hmm maybe it should be put to a vote, poll or something?

I’m pretty sure Mato has a font in his mind by now anyway so it wouldn’t make much difference, so that’s all on the subject for me.

Mario i said Many
not all,
personally, i like pokemon too my favorite Pokemon is Lucario, i just said that many Mother Fans Won’t Like a Pokemon Font in the Traslation.

When I looked at the Poke’font screenshots I couldn’t really tell it was Poke’mon. It just looked natural.

If it doesn’t work though, wouldn’t it be possible to use the EB font and make it variable width in the game? Or would that be way too hard?

Mato has already said that hacking in a variable width font would probably add about another year to the project (due to all of the hacking, testing, ruthless bugs, time, and searing pain involved in doing so).

I honestly liked the Pokemon font in the screenshots; I think it looks better in Mother than it did in Pokemon, actually (I think it has something to do with the text being white on a black background instead of black on a cream of mushroom soup original GB shade of white background.

I didn’t think it was that bad either. (Ducks from onslaught of thrown Mr. Saturns, PWAAAAAH!)

What’s there not to like about Pokemon?
The only thing I thought that stopped people from
playing the game was the incredibly gay anime.
Other than that, the game is actually OK.
The poke font looks ok but..

BTW i was playing zelda1 the other day and i noticed
the numbers looked alot like the ones in EB0.

Is there any way to erase my comments here?

Nah there isn’t Wolf.

The Zelda: A Link to the Past font was really readable, and its available as a font on most zelda fansites. It’s called “Return of Ganon”