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November 14th, 2015 | Merchandise, MOTHER 3, Videos

In the latest Nintendo Direct, it was announced that MOTHER 3 will be released on the Japanese Wii U Virtual Console on December 17, 2015:

A MOTHER series-themed Nintendo prepaid card was also revealed:

mother series points card

And of course the same Nintendo Direct shared info about the upcoming Lucas amiibo, due to be released in North America on January 22, 2016:

lucas-amiibo

Wow, so that’s two official pieces of MOTHER 3 merchandise, the first to be released in YEARS. And then an announcement of the game’s re-release in Japan. I only expected to hear about the amiibo!

Of course, the question everyone is asking now is: does this mean there’s hope for an official translation of MOTHER 3 soon?

 

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51 Comments to MOTHER 3 To Be Released on Japanese Wii U


Anonymous said on Nov. 14, 2015

HOLY MOLY

Too lazy to login... said on Nov. 14, 2015

I hope this community knows what this means. The minute MOTHER 3 comes out in Japan, the Miiverse community is going to get annihilated with NA posts about translating it and bringing it to NA. 2016 WILL be the year NA gets MOTHER 3.

Trump said on Nov. 14, 2015

Take to Miiverse and wage e-jihad

RBMNintendoGamer said on Nov. 14, 2015

Well, although now we may be more close than ever to finally see this game in the West, I don’t really know if they may be willing to localize the game from scratch (unless they are willing to use your translation, which I think they have been long time aware of).

It is true that they finally gave us the original Mother after 26 years waiting, but that was a translation already done but never relased to the public. I mean, I don’t know how much time/money does it take to localize a game, but I guess it’s no easy deal even for Nintendo.

But hey, Reggie knows from a lot of years that we DEMAND for the game to be released (remember that E3 2014 joke?), so I suggest we all flood the Mother 3 Miiverse page when it comes out begging for an international release (it worked for EarthBound, so it’s worth the shot XD).

Kintrex said on Nov. 14, 2015

They really have no excuse not to do it now, considering basically 100% of the work is already done for them and there’s no manufacturing or shipping costs to factor in.

Anonymous said on Nov. 14, 2015

We already have the other two Mother games on Wii U, including one that has never had an official release outside of Japan before. I don’t know if that means we’ll get Mother 3, bu “get the whole series on one system!” would be hell of an ad.

SuperStarmen said on Nov. 14, 2015

I seriously doubt Mother3 will be coming over to NA America. Especially now with this whole… Paris/Muslin incident. *Cough*Fassad*Cough*

The Great Morgil said on Nov. 14, 2015

Guys, do you honestly expect them to use Mato’s translation? I know he offered and all, but does anybody actually realize just how much red tape that would involve. I’m pretty sure translating it themselves would be far less of a headache to NOA’s lawyers.

Parkraft123 said on Nov. 14, 2015

THIS HURTS WAY TOO MUCH

WHAT ABOUT NORTH AMERICA

T_W_M said on Nov. 14, 2015

*And Europe, don’t forget about us. At least you actually GOT EarthBound the first time around… XD

Anonymous said on Nov. 14, 2015

@SuperStarmen
What does Fassad have to do with the Islamic terrorism? Middle Eastern men’s wear is not controversial in any way. Unless you’re implying that everyone who wears Middle Eastern clothes are terrorists?

SuperStarmen said on Nov. 14, 2015

Im not implying anything. Although im not wrong when i say that a LOT of people unfortunately think that way. Fassad is the exact depiction of how many people think of a terrorist, clothing style, cruel person, Type of facial hair. Not to mention he technically(while not physically) destroys Tazmily from the inside. Its almost a given that Nintendo will be giving his character some thought if they decide to localize M3.

neonix said on Nov. 14, 2015

I don’t see why you think they’d have to give Fassad’s character some thought for an NA release when they didn’t give it any thought for a Japan re-release. And especially considering that it will be many months from now (the Paris attacks) when they are ready to release it if they do.

Kelsyjones said on Nov. 14, 2015

I wonder how long it’ll take me to get my hands on a Lucas Amiibo… I still don’t have Ness.

The Great Morgil said on Nov. 14, 2015

@Kelsyjones: As long as it’s not a repeat of what happened with Ness where Gamestop’s system crashed when they were taking pre-orders. Store exclusives are a stupid idea anyway, especially when supplies are so low to begin with.

Cheech Marin said on Nov. 15, 2015

Why is North America so neglected by Nintendo? It makes me very sad.

meh said on Nov. 15, 2015

They won’t releasing it to the west, end of story.

Huks said on Nov. 15, 2015

@SuperStarmen That’s just ridiculous. Fassad’s looks are inspired by stereotypical Arab oil sheikhs, since he drives Tazmily into greed and corruption. It’s a completely different matter from the religiously motivated Islamic terrorists.

Star and Moon said on Nov. 15, 2015

Oh.

Well, I suppose I gotta jump on the “NOA needs to localize this” bandwagon but I honestly don’t think this game should be given priority over whatever other projects they have.

Doseisan said on Nov. 15, 2015

Any idea where to get that prepaid card outside Japan?

Anonymous said on Nov. 15, 2015

I find it interesting that Japan now has access to all 3 mother games on the wii u now

SuperGamingbro64 said on Nov. 15, 2015

Well, it’s something. I mean, there is a slight chance Nintendo could take up, Mato’s offer. The team’s translation is what many people outside of Japan consider to be Mother 3

Clone5184 said on Nov. 16, 2015

I’m hoping this does get released over here, because it’d be great to:
a. Play an official translation of Mother 3
b. Play it bug-free

Of course, some bugs may remain (Like Duster’s attack sound), but I’m mainly referring to emulation glitches.

Meta said on Nov. 16, 2015

I guess it was a good idea to import the game.

Welp, time to start the original Japanese cartridge.

AwelCruiz said on Nov. 16, 2015

The Lucas amiibo comes out the day before my birthday. Happy birthday to me, assuming I can get one!

AwelCruiz said on Nov. 16, 2015

I already own a repro cart of Mother 3 that has been patched with the English translation. I wouldn’t have bought it ordinarily, but a friend of mine ordered one and ended up buying two by mistake. She offered one of them to me for $20, so I bought it just to help her out.

Rest assured, if Mother 3 ever gets an official localization and I ever get a Wii U, I’ll be buying it.

Tom said on Nov. 17, 2015

Will the prepaid card be released in NA?

DJMankiewitz said on Nov. 17, 2015

It wasn’t but two years ago that I had basically written off NOA’s support of Earthbound as essentially gone aside from the occasional cameo in things like Smash Bros.

With all that’s happened, it seems more likely than ever that they actually do intend to translate and release the game now. It’ll be a big undertaking, much bigger than just releasing already translated ROMs, but I think they now know the demand is there.

The only hiccup? Nintendo may still not consider the effort worth it due to the rather poor Wii U sales. (It’s not as dismal as some claim, as in it’s no Virtual Boy, but it’s clear that it isn’t even catching up to Gamecube sales.) That single fact means that even if it sold to 80% of Wii U owners, it still wouldn’t be nearly as much as it COULD sell for.

There is hope! It all rests on the 3DS. The 3DS (old and new) is fully capable of playing GBA games natively, without emulation. This has been revealed by hackers carefully analyzing the Ambassador GBA releases. All they did was “wrap up” the game and handle where saved data is stored. The game itself calls on a modified version of the GBA BIOS and simply turns the whole 3DS into a GBA for the duration of play. Releasing Mother 3 (and Earthbound Beginnings for that matter) on 3DS instantly and dramatically increases the potential sales base for the game, enough to make the effort worth it I’d think.

This begs the question, why hasn’t Nintendo been selling GBA games on the 3DS eShop yet? It’s a question I’ve asked a number of times myself. The hardware is easily capable, and the ambassador games work perfectly (minus multiplayer functionality, which Mother 3 doesn’t have anyway). Further, since the 3DS is fully capable of playing DS games natively (just plug one in and go), why aren’t the DS eShop games being sold there too? Heck, old DSi downloadable software can still be bought on the 3DS. Well, GBA/DS mode on the 3DS comes with a number of caveats. It all comes down to the fact that they are running natively by telling the system to turn to GBA (or DS) mode. With the singular exception of home menu functionality (to quit the game), NONE of the standard features of the 3DS function when in GBA mode. The system gets disconnected from the internet. “Standby” mode doesn’t work (closing the system only turns off the screen, the game still runs unless the game has a built-in sleep mode that can be turned on). There’s no way to go back to the home menu while the game is still running (you need to quit the game first), and as a result, no way to use certain functions like game notes, nor can you read the digital manual while the game is still running. The system basically loses all it’s multitasking functionality. DS games fare a bit better, as they do go to sleep when the lid is closed just as the original DS did, but one still needs to quit the whole game to get back to the menu, so unless the digital manual is built into the game itself, one can’t see it there either. (DS game multiplayer works just fine at least, since the original system used wireless too. Although, online play has been shut down for that system.)

Now, having said all that, you may be asking a very important question. “So what?!” you’re saying. “Sounds like a very minor issue, and I don’t mind dealing with that lack of features if I can play the game!” I couldn’t agree more, hypothetical person I’m writing the words for! However, if I understand correctly, I think Nintendo puts a high value on a consistent gaming experience on a system. They want to be able to definitively say “every game you play, no matter which one, you can expect all the same system features to work the same!”. Even the Virtual Console games are set up to work with that same consistent experience, as they’re emulated and all. They did manage to use all that extra memory and cores on the Wii U to run eShop Wii games natively while maintaining all the Wii U Home button features. They clearly wanted to make sure nothing was left out. (As an aside, the Wii U can still play Gamecube games natively, as some hackers have confirmed, it’s just the disc drive that’s the problem. I think the only reason they haven’t started selling Gamecube games on Wii U’s eShop is because they would depend so much on a proper Gamecube controller, and as using one requires purchasing so much extra for new players, it means reaching a far smaller audience. This is why they should never have removed analog triggers from the Wii U controller designs.) So, okay then, they want consistency. What about those DSi games? They’re selling them! Well, no one’s making DSi games any more except the same weird people making terrible online flash games starring pregnant Elsa (and you know those aren’t licensed by Disney). It’s certainly not a back catalog Nintendo is actively expanding and advertising. It’s just… there, so it’s basically harmless as far as image is concerned. If they started pushing out GBA and DS games, that WOULD be an “active” catalog, with new games coming out each week and ongoing advertising for the new releases. It would inevitably create that sense of an inconsistent system experience, and those without a lot of technical knowledge (and by that I mean without knowledge of what is and is not a retro game vs a 3DS game, and that’s most common people) would basically have to question every time “Does this game let me browse the menu without closing it, or not? I’ve got no way to know!”. Keep in mind, if they release ONE GBA game, there’s basically no reason they’d ever want to stop, especially since fans would start asking for more GBA games. “In for a penny, in for a pound” as they say, so it’s a serious consideration they’ve got to make.

Well, okay fine, it’d create an inconsistent experience, barring some complicated technical update that would allow the background OS to run simultaneously in a shared address space, like running the GBA game in some sort of virtualized instance (although it’s unlikely the 3DS processor supports virtualization). I just explained what I THINK Nintendo’s rationale is. My response to that is to say to Nintendo: It’s okay. A little inconsistency is fine, if the trade off is a large list of new games I can buy on my 3DS, including games unreleased in the US such as Tingle’s Rosy Rupeeland for the DS. Those features were never system sellers anyway, and for the most part I don’t think most people are popping back into the menu unless they intend to play something else anyway. I’m certainly not setting up chat parties with my friends after all, since the 3DS doesn’t exactly have such a feature. Miiverse posting would be the most sorely missed feature, but even then a worthy sacrifice. I’d say proper branding could resolve the issue. Don’t even label them “Virtual Console” games. Label them something different like “Native Classics”, with a little blurb on every single one of them with a basic explanation that some 3DS features are disabled due to how the game runs on the hardware. People will accept this, and the ding to the “consistency” image should be easy to absorb at this point, with the 3DS as popular as it now is this late in the game.

Sorry for the long post, I hope I at least made it an entertaining read.

SHORT VERSION: Mother 3 should be released on 3DS to reach a large audience and make translating the game worth it. The system can run it without emulation, just without certain 3DS features, but I think it’s worth the sacrifice.

Virtual Knight said on Nov. 18, 2015

All the more reason to appeal for signatures on the petition I started again. http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/nintendomother

PKrockin it said on Nov. 18, 2015

Huh. I never really thought about that whole consistency thing…

Killerspecialk said on Nov. 19, 2015

Hnnnngggggg!!!!

I hope this means something for us westerners. I was floored when they released Earthbound Beginnings on the WiiU eShop, so now, more than ever, I feel like we have a legitimate shot at getting this to the US and Europe. Oh my Kami, please. PLEASE!

Side note: If Nintendo did get ahold of Mato and asked to use his translation/ help retranslate, there is no way in hell he could even hint to us about it. Just a thought I had. I know for the Big N to reach out to an outside party not associated with a company to help do ANYTHING with one of their properties is about as likely as the earth to explode tomorrow, but a man can dream right?

JM said on Nov. 19, 2015

I just noticed that it was literally faster for me to learn Japanese than to get an English release of Mother 3. (・_・)

It’s been a long 9 years.

game4brains said on Nov. 19, 2015

Considering how Japanese fans consider 3 to be the black sheep of the series (simply for not taking place in a parody of America like the other games), I’m impressed that this managed to get a re-release at all.
I’m still doubtful of an international release occurring, though, due to the amount of time needed to localize the game, the current perception of the fan translation as official, and the fact that those who openly request for an English release are only a small fraction of the general gaming population. Nevertheless, I’d still be glad to see an official localization, and I’m pretty confident that, given NoA being more comfortable about releasing T-rated titles, we would be able to get an uncensored official release if by some miracle it manages to occur.

Anonymous said on Nov. 20, 2015

The other two Mother games have been complete hits on the Virtual Console. They should understand that all the effort that may take them to localize the game will surely pay off, I can only imagine thousands upon thousands of downloads upon release (didn’t it happen whem the translation patch was released?)

P.S.: Don’t forget about Europe!

Dr.x said on Nov. 20, 2015

I want to buy that eshop card to frame in my house.

RadicOmega said on Nov. 20, 2015

I have a lot of faith that this will eventually lead to an American release of the game!

Prayer For Safety said on Nov. 21, 2015

This is exciting news.

Three and a half years ago any rerelease seemed impossible, it’s great to see how far things have came.

This all seemed impossible years ago, but it happened. Nintendo is aware of the fans, and have been hearing requests for Mother 3 for almost ten years now. I think there is a chance something might happen, but it a english VC release, or (very doubtful) a ground up retooling of the game.

Something will likely happen down the line when we’re least expecting it. The only thing anyone could really do is to hope and request it the same way everyone requested EarthBound on the Wii U.

I really do think something is on the backburner for this, that they have some idea/plan in motion to get the game released worldwide. If they do it’ll be on a bigger scale than EarthBound Beginnings was due to how long people have been wanting this. That leads me to believe more than anything else that if an announcement comes it’ll be when no one is expecting it, maybe next E3, maybe five years from now. Who knows.

. said on Nov. 22, 2015

We need mother 3, no mater how many contrversery’s there are! the fassad thing.

. said on Nov. 23, 2015

don’t care about amiibo, but mother 3

DJ said on Nov. 26, 2015

What controversy? I’ve heard no news sites complaining.

IGN said on Nov. 27, 2015

In IGN somewhere they complaining sub-culture of drag queens like magypsies,fredy mercury’s i want to brek free music video and latest conchita wurst it was my opinion,rest is animal abuse,crossdreesing fashion like oxygen machines and tane tane island halucinations and etc.

. said on Dec. 1, 2015

@DJ
i meant the fassad talk above.

DJMankiewitz said on Dec. 4, 2015

None of those things seem particularly likely to actually matter. That is, aside from fans speculating that those might be controversial, I don’t think anyone actually cares.

Killerspecialk said on Dec. 4, 2015

Most of what’s talked about doesn’t seem like an issue. The only thing I could see them having an issue with is the Magypsies….and MAYBE the O2 Machines especially given the way Lucas acts afterwards. But, given how much Nintendo seems to want to censor things lately, they may edit the shit out of it and release it. Don’t get me wrong, even if they do edit it, it’ll still be a day one purchase, but most of my replay through a will be Mato’s version. Personally there is nothing in this game that will give it an M rating, so just slap a T rating on it and release it. Please, please, please NOA, if you do release it, don’t butcher it. No memes either for the love of Kami.

. said on Dec. 5, 2015

@any nintendo staff
JUST RELEASE MOTHER THREE!

Pollo said on Dec. 7, 2015

From my little understanding of Mother 3, wouldn’t there be more work involved beyond simply “taking someone’s translation”.
I assume there would be a lot of censorship needed. I mean, look at how much was changed in Earthbound Beginnings and Earthbound.
I’m not familiar with anything of Mother 3 other than the ending plot twist because I’m holding on to the hope that the game will be released in the west. But if Mother 3 is similar to the first two games, there’s bound to be stuff that Nintendo would change for the U.S. release.

But honestly, even if effort is needed, now could not be a better time for Earthbound to finally get a NA sequel.
When Brawl was released, Lucas was relatively unknown by the mainstream public. He’s a known character now. He’s getting an amiibo. He’s a part of Smash 4. Mother 1 is on the VC and was one of the most downloaded games for a period of time. It beat Splatoon here in the U.S. in the top downloads of the Month (ironically being the other way around in Japan, with Mother 1 taking the #2 spot).
Earthbound is hot.
What else could they possibly wait for to generate more hype?
They’ve referenced the fans in their skits.
When it comes to 3s, the only other game that could explode the internet is Half-Life 3.
But the moment Nintendo announces “Mother 3 will be released in NA and Europe”
Ka-fugging-boom. The internet will explode.
People will buy the game just to see what the big deal was.

This wouldn’t have happened back when Brawl was released. But it’s been almost 10 years since Brawl and the oven’s been pre-heating. I can’t think of a better time than with the release of the Lucas amiibo. I think it’s hit the peak of fertilizing this ground.

DJMankiewicz said on Dec. 10, 2015

I haven’t seen Nintendo censoring too much at all lately. I mean, they took little girls out of revealing outfits, but that’s more of a “what was Japan thinking doing something that creepy in the first place?!” issue. Bayonetta was pretty much untouched.

I really don’t think there’s any chance of anything being censored. Those O2 tanks really aren’t any creepier than things I’ve seen on Gravity Falls or Adventure Time.

guy said on Dec. 11, 2015

I would like to remind everyone that Fassad as a name is exclusive to the fan translation – He’s Yokuba in the original.

. said on Dec. 20, 2015

@Virtual Knight
I did mine multiple times in your link.

. said on Dec. 21, 2015

I put the Ipetitions thing on miiverse in Mother3 Community. We got 90 signatures so far.

Ken Martinez said on Dec. 23, 2015

I really, really, hope Nintendo will weigh the long-term benefits of a translation against the short-term cost.

Yes, it will cost money to translate this game. But their first party games have pretty much perpetual shelf lives. They’d only have to spend money to translate MOTHER 3 once, and afterwards, they’ll have a game they can sell and resell to the US and Europe literally forever.

The Wii U is likely going to have a sizable dry spell between Pokken and Zelda U, and this would be perfect for plugging it up.


 
 

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