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May 19th, 2010 | EarthBound, Images

Good ol’ Omnomnominous sent this in a little while back:

Hey πŸ™‚ I was just reading ‘NGamer’ magazine and found this. It’s pretty self-explanatory. Nice to see that there are UK fans wishing the MOTHER series would make it onto VC/DS. Apologies for the poor quality, since I used a camera rather than a scanner. It’s still perfectly readable, though.

It’s starting to sound repetitive, but it’s cool seeing how wanted the games are all around the world. So strange that Nintendo’s not doing anything about it, but I guess that’s just how things are.

 

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36 Comments to MOTHER Letter in NGamer


Linkzcap said on May. 19, 2010

NOA is just beyond stupid at this point. I still don’t understand why they refuse to release anything more of one of the games with the hugest followings in the history of video games.

Commander said on May. 19, 2010

Right on! This guy knows what he’s saying!

MG said on May. 20, 2010

I remember I wrote a letter to NOA on rereleasing the series as a school assignment on writing business letters. I got a reply, and it wasn’t a generic “thank you for your questions” thing, but they didn’t really answer my questions. Maybe I should send that in.

Halloween said on May. 20, 2010

Every time I read something like this it makes me really wonder how this could be. I mean, it’s not the worst possible situation (the games are there to play for those who emulate) but it could be a lot better very easily.

So many bad games come out, I can’t see what it could hurt to release the Mother series, especially on the virtual console for (I imagine) very little cost. There isn’t anything about the games themselves that are ‘niche’ or ‘cult’, the release status makes them that way. I’m almost sure that if Mother 3 saw a larger release, it would stand a chance to be a very popular game.

sigh said on May. 20, 2010

@Linkzcap

….aaaand people still ignore the concept that Nintendo might just be deadlocked against being able to edit the game to be free of copyright issues, while the Japanese publisher won’t allow edits, just so they can get in a cheap insult and call Nintendo “stupid” for things that just very well may be out of their hands.

It’s customary, as well, that when you have an issue like this on your hands, it’s often not good for relations to talk publicly about it, either. Hence why Nintendo is probably being so tightlipped about it.

You know, this kind of thing with the Earthbound fanboys needs to stop. It needs to stop.

I like the Mother series as much as anyone else out there, but it’s incredibly counterproductive to heap all the blame and cheap shots rather ignorantly on Nintendo time after time after time after time, when there is likely a very good explanation that quite frankly, we’re not really entitled to know about.

We want to know about it. Sure. But we’re not entitled to it. It’s sad. It’s unfortunate. We don’t like it. But that’s the way it is.

People love to find a scapegoat. Someone they can blame. Someone they can call stupid for not being able to deliver what we all want. I, however, get tired of the counterproductive whining, and elitism about it. It helps no one.

I really hate how “fans” of something can historically never seemingly stop, and think before whining and bitching about something, endlessly.

If Earthbound were easy to release on the console, they would have done it already. It’s already very well known that licensing issues are a predominant factor in determining whether a game is available for Virtual Console, but when people don’t get what they want they are quick to forget that, or outright igore it just to cry and insult Nintendo over it.

At this point, i’m starting to believe that if people want it THIS badly to start slinging feces at Nintendo like a disgruntled ape, they should honestly just buckle down, get an emulator and play the game on their PC (even if it isn’t particularly legal or ethical to do) or do something else other than make the entire fanbase look worse and continue to give the impression that they don’t really deserve EB on Virtual Console, the way they carry on about it.

I have to say that as a Mother fan myself with some common sense and decency left, I still feel very polarized by the generally poor behavior of the majority of the community over their ceaseless barbs and jabs directed straight at the hand that they are actually expecting to feed them.

Violet said on May. 20, 2010

@sigh

While you have a point, in that this doesn’t seem to be wholly the fault of NoA, Nintendo can’t escape the blame for not releasing it. Why are none of the games even on the Japanese Virtual Console? There’s no reason as far as I can see. Unless there’s been some kind of weird change in the law over there since Mother 1+2, the licencing issues mean nothing over there. So why are the games not even being released in Japan? They won’t get released outside Japan before they even appear on the Virtual Console there. So what’s going on?

As for playing it on an emulator, as a UK gamer who basically figured that it was never going to happen, I have already played it on an emulator. I’m glad I did, but I would still like a VC release someday, so I can actually own the game.

Omnomnominous said on May. 20, 2010

@Violet

Same here regarding emulation – I don’t usually use emulators, preferring instead to support the developers, and to be honest it’s a shame that the one game I’d be most interested in supporting via purchase is the one Nintendo are least likely to release on VC.

LucasTizma said on May. 20, 2010

NoA is stupid for a variety of reasons, but I have to say that because we don’t know exactly why they are “ignoring” MOTHER here in the US, this isn’t one of them. I think they are snubbing MOTHER for marketing reasons. Frankly, I don’t care. It’s likely that the MOTHER series is over (unfortunately) given the impressions I get from Itoi’s past statements (maybe he’ll pass the buck to someone else), and thanks to the hard work of Mato and others, we can enjoy all three MOTHER games in English.

I tend to agree with sigh that too many MOTHER fans are immature. It’s really just a series of unfortunate events that prevented MOTHER from becoming as popular here in the US as it is in Japan. Nothing can really be done about it. :-\

I said on May. 20, 2010

I wonder why nintendo never relesed EB in Eurupe.

Javi said on May. 20, 2010

I wonder what the MOTHER Fan Community would be like if Nintendo kept giving us what we want. Would we still be as hardcore…? Just some thoughts. XD

random guardian said on May. 20, 2010

I’m sure there is some reason why NOA is ignoring the MOTHER community. its probably a good reason too but knowing how NOA works it probably wont even consider a state side release until the general people(not just the fans)would accept it. we have to just sit and wait even if it takes years for it to come.

Greiv said on May. 20, 2010

Hah, Javi, I was thinking the same thing. Half the stuff Mother fans talk about is the localization of M3 or EB on the VC. If these wishes came true, this site would probably shut down. :]

neonix said on May. 20, 2010

Definitely would not be as hardcore. I Google’d “mario forum” and the most active one I found has only one board specifically designated for Mario talk which had relatively few posts while the majority of posts are in general and off-topic boards.

Google “earthbound forum.” Yeah, we got em beat. 8)

Ice Sage said on May. 20, 2010

What makes this stand out so much for me is the fact that Ninten is actually mentioned in print, for once. I guess he would be, though, considering the article topic.

Roo said on May. 20, 2010

“I wonder what the MOTHER Fan Community would be like if Nintendo kept giving us what we want. Would we still be as hardcore…? Just some thoughts. XD”

People said the same thing before the Red Sox won the World Series in 2004. Everyone thought they would lose their identity and not know what to do with themselves. But 2 WS rings later, if you ask any fan of the Sox if they enjoy being a fan more now or then, I guarantee you at least 90% would say it’s better now. Sometimes getting all you wish for actually makes you happy. πŸ™‚

As for NoA, whose “fault” it is for EB not getting released, and EB fan “immaturity”, I’ve said my piece on it many times, but here it goes again.

Sure, we aren’t entitled to know why it’s not being released, but as any good company knows, respecting us by letting us know what the deal is would go a long way to smoothing over consumer discontent. Is it music copyright? Is it problems with the pop references in the game? Did NoA throw all their copies of the original cart in the Pacific? Who knows? They won’t tell us!

And frankly, they (they being NoA mostly) are just being bad stewards of the series that we all love. It’s like a museum obtaining a favored work of art that you love, then stashing it in a corner, letting it rot, and eventually just locking it in a closet without any reason given. Sure, it’s their right to do whatever they want, but some members of the public would at least like a non-boiler plate explanation as to why.

Sure, we shouldn’t wish bodily harm or any such overreaction on specific people or anything, but I think some consternation on behalf of the EB fan community is a little warranted after all this time. Do you begrudge us even that?

Linkzcap said on May. 20, 2010

@sigh

I’m not a real Mother fan, at least not an real EB fan. I’ve never played it and don’t plan on using an emulator.

What frustrates me though is that there is this amazing game that everyone is talking about, and this game came out 15 years ago. In modern days, I expect to be able to easily find a re-release on the Gameboy Advance or on the Virtual Console.

I wasn’t too clear about there be copyright problems, though, so sorry bout that. But why is NOA not saying anything and basically calling the Mother fans a bizarre cult game group?

Maybe because Earthbound still doesn’t have copyrights cleared or something, so they are forbidden to mention it. But doesn’t it just seem like they’re ignoring us? A lot?

I probably don’t have all my facts straight but what I want is to play Earthbound, and I don’t see why NOA can’t release games like Japan can.

I think NOA is stupid because their neglecting us in every way. And ‘us’ as in the people that want Earthbound.

Tell me if I’m downright wrong on something but that’s what I think on all this Earthbound stuff.

PK BLAH said on May. 21, 2010

What?! Cave Story isn’t for Virtual Console.
It’s for Wiiware! Bah!

Omnomnominous said on May. 21, 2010

Wow…Since I’m pretty new to all this, I’m surprised at the fact the VC thing is still such a hot topic for discussion. Maybe I should send in all the other UK magazine articles, since I haven’t seen them on here(except for the ‘Why Are We Waiting’ thing from ONM a while back) I have an envelope full of Earthboundy mag cuttings – I don’t think much of it pertains to an EB re-release, but it’s still interesting. πŸ™‚

Poe said on May. 21, 2010

Any overseas mentions of EarthBound would be cool to see, omnomguy. If you’ve got more, please send them!

Arutoa said on May. 21, 2010

At this rate, it’ll happen eventually. Emphasis on “eventually”.

Lol said on May. 21, 2010

I hope Reggie is making a ds or wii game that has all mother games translated into english, so he is surprising us.

but knowing him, he obviously wouldn’t. πŸ™

Poe said on May. 21, 2010

Reggie doesn’t “make” the games anyway. His specialty is marketing, not game development.

Lol said on May. 21, 2010

@Poe

I am not that stupid!
you think i think that?!

Poe said on May. 21, 2010

People have assumed as much before. It’s not uncommon for the EB community to be pretty oblivious to how things work at Nintendo.

Omnomnominous said on May. 21, 2010

True, true. But I don’t think Lol meant ‘make’ in the literal sense.
It’s not just the EB community though, I’m sure there are TONS of people out there who don’t fully understand the inner workings of such a huge company as Nintendo. To some, it’s not even particularly necessary, as to most players at home the games are the priority.(Sorry if this makes no sense at all..XD)

PsiWolf674 said on May. 21, 2010

@sigh
Nintendo still sucks because all of the games they release nowadays suck.

I hate Nintendo and they suck. That’s why I’m going with freeware games now. (Yume Nikki, anyone?)

Honestly, all the “good” games they’ve ever realeased have been in the past. I mean, Super Mario Galaxy TWO?!?! What a bunch of BS! Their games’ quialities have literally hit rock bottom.

Omnomnominous said on May. 22, 2010

@PsiWolf674

I agree! – currently, decent games on the Wii and DS are nearly impossible to find, having been replaced by family-friendly shovelware and repetitive sequels to tired franchises.(and let’s not forget the countless ‘fitness/lifestyle games’) It sucks that by attempting to make their games appeal to so many demographics, Nintendo have lost many of the original fans who made them so popular to begin with. They’re fast becoming some kind of faceless corporation churning out game after game in order to gain more money. Sure, the concept of targeting their games towards ‘non-gamers’ is a good tactic from the business point of view, but in doing so they have turned many devoted fans against them, as your comment clearly shows. πŸ™

@Poe
I sent in all the magazine stuff last night. There’s about 5 pieces altogether, I think.

Mato said on May. 22, 2010

Omnomnominous: I tried to get the file, but it says this: “The file you are trying to access is temporarily unavailable.”

I guess I’ll try again later.

MoonSide said on May. 22, 2010

Nintendo needs to open their eyes. I’m sure they have came to Starmen and here and read some articles about why we enjoy this game. The game is already made, so all they need to do is some removal and changing of the “offensive stuff”. This title, if released again would bring a whole new meaning to RPGs. I’m getting pretty sick of hearing about Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy or any other draw-runes-on-the-screen type of games. So, Nintendo If you are reading this: STOP hoarding all the good JRPGs and we WANT Earthbound!

(Sorry about this rant)

Omnomnominous said on May. 22, 2010

Mato: I’ll send the link again – I might have made a mistake somewhere.

JoeShmoe said on May. 22, 2010

Nintendo never appeals to fans in THIS manner. Since EarthBound failed to meet their expectations outside of Japan, what do you do? Forget about it; obviously, the same thing will happen again to the DS bundle! I mean, it’s not like TIMES have CHANGED, or anything.

Domeniq said on May. 26, 2010

Is the “EarthBound Compilation” game coming on the DS next year? I always wanted to play the best role-playing game in Nintendo History.

seasix said on May. 28, 2010

Ok folks, seriously. SERIOUSLY.

While no doubt that the fan community for this game is one of the most dedicated, as well as one of the most collectively talented, it is not the biggest out there by a long shot. Everyone stomping about and pouting about how “Nintendo sucks” needs to learn and remember the parable of Elite Beat Agents.

Osu! Tatakae! Ouendan is a fun little rhythm game for the DS that came out in Japan. The sales were actualy a bit weak on its home side of the pond, but strong word of mouth led to a large number of imports. Not only did the developer iNiS (makers of the equally quirky and fun Gitraoo Man for PS2/PSP) notice this, Nintendo did as well. They went forward with not only Ouendan 2 (which had a english message of thanks for their importing fans in the credits) but a localized version known as Elite Beat Agents. The fanbase was rabid at the news, executives were trumpeting its arrival, the critics were waiting for this new darling to come forward, and so on. Come release… it flopped.

Nobody outside of their fanbase really bought it and I am damn sure a goodly number of folks just up and pirated the damn thing instead. You can blame marketing, you can blame the concept, but the fact is that fan chest beating did nothing for the game’s bottom line: sales. It crushed NoA and their hopes to parlay a funky, fun game into a franchise. -Sound familiar?

It just seems to be one big “damned if you do, damned if you don’t” situation these days.

Domeniq said on Jun. 2, 2010

In the “EarthBound Compilation”, I got some ideas for the games. It should have the 3 “Mother” games, music from the games that you could unlock throughout the games, credits, and the illustrations from the game. It should also have the save feature like “Sonic Classic Collection”. Please Nintendo Company, every EarthBound fan and myself alway wanted you to bring the EarthBound games to the United States.

earthbounds number 1 fan said on Jun. 11, 2010

this might be off topic but in bismarcks rock 30 games they have earthbound for 85 bucks!


 

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