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May 26th, 2009 | EarthBound

VGChartz has been doing a top 100 games ever list, and EarthBound made it to #28. It’s better than God of War but not as good as Shenmue.

Do you think that’s where EarthBound belongs, or should it be higher or lower in your opinion? For me, I think that general area is about right, but I definitely can’t see Twilight Princess being better than it, or even being that high up 😛

 

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83 Comments to EarthBound 28th Best Game Ever


MagusDuality said on May. 26, 2009

I think it’s probably about where it should be, maybe it should be a bit higher. I don’t think that Twilight Princess should be ahead of it or Windwaker. Windwaker should definitely be ahead of Twilight Princess.

Poe said on May. 26, 2009

Twilight Princess should be somewhere in the 50’s or lower. I don’t understand what it is that people love so much about that game. It was pretty mediocre and definitely falls short of every Zelda game made since the beginning up to Wind Waker.

Cha-Ka Pakuni said on May. 26, 2009

I would actually switch it exactly with Twilight Princess.

It doesn’t deserve to be #1 unfortunately though. Wouldn’t that be great though?

rayefrenzy said on May. 26, 2009

All I know is Earthbound is WAYYYY beter than halo.

Pooping: Okay? said on May. 26, 2009

lists like these are the most moronic things

not only are they ranking games, but genres themselves. like if ff7 came first, they’re also claiming that genre of game is the best! and the game that’s second belongs to the second-best genre, and so on.

Anonymous said on May. 26, 2009

28 sounds about right, I think portal should have been higher on the list though.

Wil said on May. 26, 2009

Of all time?!

Probably around where it is at.. a little higher.

Maybe 15-20-ish.

LucasTizma said on May. 26, 2009

LOL Yeah, these lists are definitely skewed by “current favorites.” Twilight Princess was all hyped up so of course it’s going to be thrown up there even if it was just a “meh” kind of game. I think EB’s ranking is pretty good considering how obscure the series is as a whole here in the US.

EmeraldWind said on May. 26, 2009

I agree with the sentiment that LoZ:TP should definetly be lower…

It was the worst Zelda game, IMO…

Granted it looked good…

Actually… I not even sure it looked good anymore… I went back and play LoZ:WW and the cel-shading really added alot of depth to the game (most importantly it gives Link more character, not being able to speak is offset by the expressions that Link uses through-out the game).

But I think ultimately the best game of all time will be hard to judge. This is simply because newer games are more apt to come out on top. And 2D games have a disadvantage (sad as it is). There are some games that are old and worn out, that were once filled with awesome… like Dragon Warrior[Quest]. Most people look at the DQ series as repetitive and old. At the time the game was originally released it was truly great. (In fact, I prefer the DQ series over the FF series… I find FF to be boring.)

Ultimately, I can’t say how I feel about Earthbound’s place. So far, I’v only been able to play through EB0 and M3 (is that odd). But I will say both EB0 and M3 hold places in my greatest video games of all time. Yeah, people complain that EB0 is hard… but I liked it that way… I often complain that modern games aren’t difficult enough.

Saturnome said on May. 26, 2009

I like lists for one thing: it’s about the only thing that may convince me to play a game I haven’t played before. I sometimes made fantastic discoveries. Otherwise I don’t care much about the ranking itself, it’s ALWAYS open for debate.
This list seems right enough though: fun factor, originality, historical impact (new gameplay, game that sold a console, made a genre known, etc.), artistic quality… four important things for a good list.

EzraSmith said on May. 26, 2009

Didn’t think on an Earthbound site I’d see people trashing a Zelda game, and one of the good ones nonetheless. If I made a top 30 or whatever best game list, Earthbound would be either 1 or 2, I admit that.

EzraSmith said on May. 26, 2009

Super Metroid only number 25? I’d be paired with Earthbound on the top on my list.

ECM said on May. 26, 2009

I don’t know about higher or lower, but I do know that Earthbound should be hundreds of spaces higher than Shen Mue, one of the most over-rated games ever.

James said on May. 26, 2009

It’s sooo cool to dislike Twilight Princess. The fact is, it was a fantastic game that totally made its franchise proud. It had its flaws, but I challenge anyone to find a Zelda game that didn’t.

The problem was that it was hyped to the point that no game could live up to such expectations. So it wasn’t the end-all be-all of gaming perfection. That doesn’t mean it wasn’t an amazing game in its own right.

As for EarthBound, 28 sounds about right, but only if Mother 3 gets a higher position.

Leirin said on May. 26, 2009

Is Twilight Princess really the highest Zelda game on their list thus far? Because I’ve always thought of Ocarina of Time, Majora’s Mask (those two might be on the next though), and Wind Waker as being better than Twilight Princess. To me, TP just felt like Miyamoto’s reaction to people dissing the toon style of Wind Waker, making him go, “oh, let’s make a realistic Zelda to win the fans over again” and it actually didn’t pack the Zelda spirit the N64 games and Wind Waker had. That’s just my view of it, though…

I think EarthBound is really good, maybe 28’s somewhat too high (not that I’m saying I dislike it or anything, of course) for “games of all time”. I’m surprised Banjo-Kazooie didn’t make it up higher, or, heck, even Super Mario 64. What are these rankings based on, anyway? 😛

Mato said on May. 26, 2009

James: I dunno, I purposely tried to avoid anything about TP beforehand, and I honestly felt it wasn’t a very good Zelda game. It just felt like more of the same. In fact, that’s how many of Nintendo’s games feel these past few years to me, like there’s an assembly line that churns out these meh sequels simply because there needs to be a new entry every few years.

J.L. said on May. 26, 2009

Woow, I didn’t know so many people hated Twilight Princess… That sucks. I thought it was amazing, and I’m a Zelda fan since childhood. I wouldn’t bother trying to name one as being “better” because they (EB/TP) are so different and I like them both.

Personally I hate lists like this, because they tend to cause so much bickering.

Hyperstar96 said on May. 26, 2009

Twilight Princess is (in my opinion) the most overrated game in the history of video games. Metroid Prime 3 is a close second.

Fanboys, get your shotguns ready! 😛

PSInesslove93 said on May. 26, 2009

i think Earthbound should be a lot lower, like in the teens (around 15s) perhaps. I didn’t like Twilight Princess so much, but I really enjoyed Wind Waker. I think EB beats Super Mario Brothers, because even for being a Mario fan and the original being a classic, I think EB is a LOT better. lol

PSInesslove93 said on May. 26, 2009

but for my personal opinion (sorry for double posting) i admit that Earthbound would be my first or second favorite game of all time.

IWontGetOvertheDam said on May. 26, 2009

I agree with the game ON the list, but not with the order.

santiagoff said on May. 26, 2009

Chrono Cross 93? >______________________>

Deraj626 said on May. 26, 2009

I love windwaker, but I didn’t think it would make it! It would be cool if further on the list Earthbound 0 or the Mother 3 Fans Trans was on there.

The Great Morgil said on May. 26, 2009

Screw you all, TP was great!

Rau said on May. 26, 2009

“Buzz Buzz informs Ness of Giyagas’ plan”

… for some reason, the name “Giygagas” makes me laugh

CruxianAzelf said on May. 26, 2009

Cool to see that EB got that point.

Although, I think Tales of Symphonia should’ve gotten a higher spot than #47.
Then again, that’s just my inner fangirl speaking, so I should be quiet.

Claus said on May. 26, 2009

Yay! Could’ve been higher though.

Wil said on May. 26, 2009

Mato: It’s even worse than that. The last couple titles have been re-hash’s of older gamecube titles (Mario tennis/pikmin/donkey konga.. or something) I’m getting pretty fed up with what america is dumping on us, and leaving all the cool games/apps behind.

P.S. Twighlight Princess has NOTHING on Wind Waker. IMO

Q said on May. 26, 2009

`Best game` is meaningless, and so is a ranking like this. How do you compare a first-person shooter to, say, a parser adventure game, and say that A is a “better” game than B? Is one more fun? Maybe, but they are different kinds of fun, and you can’t convert from one to the other objectively.

That said, it’s nice to see that the media has warmed up to MOTHER since the travesty that were the 1996 reviews. 😛

AbstractedThought said on May. 26, 2009

Break out the snacks, kids! I smell a flame war abrewin’! EarthBound’s #1! Woo!

Seriously though, Q is right. Not only is it impossible to compare games from different genres, but from different times too. A game that’s awesome today could be forgotten within a year or so. Not to mention an individual’s taste in games could change over time.

Darien said on May. 26, 2009

It’s not impossible to compare games from different genres or different times. You just need to have a bit more on the ball than to say “wow, Super Mario Galaxy has way better graphics than Super Mario Bros” and leave it at that, or to criticise the Kool-Aid Man 2600 game for not having enough story cutscenes. It’s perfectly possibly to compare games in that fashion, but I’ll grant you that the overpowering majority of video game critics are awful at it.

These hacks, for example, put Final Fantasy VIII at number 33, and that’s certifiably one of the worst games of all time.

Megazerox said on May. 26, 2009

You should make a poll for this. Oh and I think Earthbound should have at least gotten the top 10 and best RPG of all time if they had individual categories for genres.

Godaigamer said on May. 26, 2009

The only list I take seriously is the actionbutton dot net list. Granted, Earthbound didn’t make it in its top 25, but Mother 3 was right at the top. I think Shenmue should have been lower as well. Sure, it was innovative at its time, but the “taste” of freedom that it offers you isn’t enough for today’s gamers.

TheFlint said on May. 26, 2009

Why most of you hate Twilight Princess…? I know that it hasn’t that ‘feeling’ that the series used to have and that it was the easiest in some way…but still, I think it was a good game. It had a more deep story than most of the zelda games, and the gameplay was good. I don’t think it was one of those games they make just to ‘realize a game per year’…it actually demanded time…

Yet, zelda’s games such as Ocarina of time and Wind Waker’s of course deserve a better rating. By the other hand, I disliked Majora’s Mask… by some weird reason.

And Earthbound…well, I prefer Mother 3, but being that a ‘japan only game’…lets leave Earthbound right there…

BY THE WAY…IS LEIRIN…ANIMEKITTYCAFE…? WELL, WHATEVER…

Xi said on May. 26, 2009

Earthbound was a flop. Not merely a flop, but a monumental flop as far as advertising spending vs. sales revenue is concerned. I always liked it, and in recent years it has gotten a pretty good fan base. But trashing critically acclaimed games such as Zelda and the Final Fantasy series that were big releases back then and still have a large following now and claiming that Earthbound belongs in one of the greatest games/RPGs of all time is just silly.

Point is, there is no best game of all time. The whole idea of “best” is silly. (If you’re interested, Penn & Teller: Bullshit! did an episode on “best” which I highly reccomend watching) If you’re a die-hard Earthbound fan, or like rpgs with a modern setting, you will pick Earthbound. If you’re a die-hard Zelda fan, or prefer action-rpgs in a medieval/fantasy setting, you’ll pick Zelda.

The only thing you could possibly have a “scientific” poll about is how MANY fans there are that would vote for which game as the best game ever. And assuming you took an actual good representative portion of the gaming population (let’s face it, MOTHER fans vote more often and in more polls than any other fan group), Earthbound would lose. Sorry.

Deiphobus said on May. 26, 2009

twilight princess was a pretty good game, but the it’s far below the other zelda games (well maybe not zelda 2).

Leirin said on May. 26, 2009

@ TheFlint
Actually, I’m her little sister, but I go by the name “AnimeKittyCafe” on Kirby’s Rainbow Resort (techy reasons).

And I definitely wasn’t trying to say I disliked Twilight Princess, ‘course not. 😛 I just don’t think it was the best of the series. It wasn’t bad, just not my favorite is all. =)

I agree wholeheartedly with what Q has said, I also don’t think anyone can just declare “XYZ is the best game ever and ABC is the worst”, because everyone has their different views and opinions. A little girl could say “Barbie Horse-Racing Princess” (dude does that even exist) is the best game ever wheareas a 20-year-old man could think Halo is the best game ever. It’s just not the kind of thing that can be announced. Even the user-voted ones like on GameFAQs aren’t going to be totally accurate.

HAK2 said on May. 26, 2009

why are most people hating twilight princess? it will never be as good as the first game, but it was pretty good to me. but i do think EB should be higher 😛

PK Mt. Fuji said on May. 26, 2009

Twilight Princess is good but I perfer Phantom Hourglass (no one can compare to Linebeck). But I dislike it when people say that Mario World is better then Mario Bros. 3, to me Mario World is just mediocore with the level design and got rid of the awesome items (frog and boot), and Bowser just looks uuugly. As about Earthbound, 28 is a decent spot as long as Mother 3 is higher.

anonymous said on May. 26, 2009

It should be in the top 20. It’s a masterpiece, but there are a lot of other great games too.

Old West said on May. 26, 2009

Haha @ all the discussion this entry has sparked.

So here I am jumping on the bandwagon.

Anyway, ever since I played it I’ve felt EarthBound was the top game of all time. I know most don’t share that view, not even many MOTHER fans, but I believe it adamantly. I never expect it to get nearly that high on these kinds of lists though.

WHILE people are on the subject of Twilight Princess, I might as well say half of what I loved it for was its vibe, which was in my view unlike any other Zelda. Yeah the gameplay premise wasn’t anything extraordinary, but its production values were extremely high and Nintendo aimed (and succeeded) in creating a world like no previous Zelda. That said I miss those old screens from E3 05 or whatever, and the “45 minutes to cross Hyrule” thing.

wishydude said on May. 26, 2009

now being my favorite game (series) i am not going to be biased

i think that it should be 21 not 28, BUT i am glad it is so high up in the list

how did twilight princess beat wind waker?

Someone Else said on May. 26, 2009

I never really understood the need to compare totally different games to each other. I mean, it would make sense to compare games within a series (Like comparing Oracle of Ages to Oracle of Seasons), or games within the same genre (Like comparing Mario to Sonic the Hedgehog), but these “Every game EVER made!” contests never really prove anything.

By the way, I liked Twilight Princess, but I didn’t like the atmosphere of the game as much as the other three 3D Zeldas. It was too…something. But I did like playing through the game.

Anonymous said on May. 26, 2009

Considering that EarthBound was such a bad game, I’m surprised that it even made it on the list!

Sandata said on May. 27, 2009

Let’s face it. People feelings to game changed. We were used to playing an RPG not knowing what the heck the items or spells really did. A video game back then even the simple ones might require a pen and paper.

Now video games give so much info. tutorial levels in the main game, auto equip, easier controls. Things got simple.

Earthbound is still a top RPG in some people’s minds. For the sake that it has alot going for it, it’s set in a real world, lots of NPC, the only flaw to todays RPG standers is that its side quests are dry, there’s no SUPER MEGA I GOT HIT 20 TIMES ATTACK, there’s no movies, and there’s no moving battle attack animation.

Overall for it to be in the list and that high up is something.

NT said on May. 27, 2009

This isn’t really related to this specific post, but I just wanted to say that I love this site!! There are just so many cool EB things on here! I can waste hours browsing around.

Thanks so much for putting this together. I’m looking forward to more stuff in the future!

Raw said on May. 27, 2009

My list:

Worst Zelda games:

Last: Twilight Princess
Dead Last: Phantom Hourglass
Disqualified: Cdi Zeldas

Dumbo said on May. 27, 2009

The Zelda series, for me, is overrated. EarthBound should’ve been in the 20’s-10’s.

Bowser said on May. 27, 2009

For me, Earthbound will always be number one!
These lists are pointless…

danster said on May. 27, 2009

Wind Waker will endure the test of time
just like A Link to the Past did

I wouldn’t be so sure about Twilight Princess doing it..
or even Ocarina of Time..

Wind Waker seems to me the epitome of 3D Zelda
i’d love that someday something way better came along
unlikely as i seems right now
you never know do you?

EzraSmith said on May. 27, 2009

All these top game list on the internet are just indicative of the people writing it having no material at the time. As much as I love Earthbound, I can see people not liking it, from many standpoints. It’s overall theme is very cheesy and even a bit gay (it is Japanese after all), but out of 100, isn’t 28 very high?

Deraj626 said on May. 27, 2009

I’m commenting again just to say if you go to a store called Play n’ Trade, you can buy an Earthbound cart for $70. Way better than buying the whole set for $1,000. Plus, they sell systems that play NES and SNES games for $50! That’s less than the game itself!

Shamu said on May. 27, 2009

It’s 28th on there, but we ALL know it’s the No.1

EzraSmith said on May. 27, 2009

The Wind Waker was just a cartoony, more easy and more boring version of Ocarina of Time. At least TP (that acryonom seems wrong) did some new things, and was generally fun. Wind Waker was very boring, lifeless, and even a bit creepy.

wants_latios_lots said on May. 27, 2009

Ezra, you’re so wrong on so many levels. So many levels.

Anyway yeah Portal should have been higher, but I suppose that’s the curse of puzzle-type games. You’ll never see Layton or the likes high up there.

EzraSmith said on May. 27, 2009

I am? Well, I don’t think opinions can be wrong, but I just find the Wind Waker to be a generally bad game. Not bad like, “OMG I cant even control this POS” but just the kind of bad like you’re in a cruddy mood and you don’t feel like doing much. That and it bored me more than reading textfiles.com

Rockin'Ness said on May. 27, 2009

Erza, are you serious? Wind Waker is the best in the series! Well, I guess that’s your opinion that you didn’t like it, but just WHAT didn’t you like about it? All you said was it was ”boring, lifeless, and even a bit creepy’… That’s not describing what you like about it…

I think lists like this are stupid. I just read them to find out some good games that are unknown to me.

EzraSmith said on May. 27, 2009

Well, it was boring, for one. I can’t think of any game more able to make you fall asleep than that game, with its uneventful, ridiculously eventless “exploration” on the boring streak of blue paint called an ocean in the game. I mean, it doesn’t get any less exciting than going from island a to island b to collection item a to get to item b…agh, it’s boring me just talking about it.

It’s also way too easy, and (obviously by the visuals) it was made for kids, and was Miyamato went all George Lucas, claiming Ocarina of Time was supposed to be like this (but I guess a robot from the future prevented him from making it like that?) and yadda yadda, when it was just him going crazy and trying to make someone more marketable to kids so he could make more money.

And in the end, it’s very creepy, all the little kids being led to homoerotic asian men, and a chinese boat talking, and some big ugly guy well…kidnapping little kids, it’s too much for me. Give me it’s predecessors (minus Zelda 2) and its successors any day.

EzraSmith said on May. 27, 2009

*something more marketable.

Er, I type too fast.

Shad said on May. 28, 2009

It’s a good place seeing as fromwhat I know not that many people have played it.

Oinkyescommander said on May. 28, 2009

It should be #1!!!

Oinkyescommander said on May. 28, 2009

Actually, Mother 3 should

RCat said on May. 28, 2009

Xi’s face is silly.

Anyway, so long as EB beat God of War, I can die happy.

Mother said on May. 29, 2009

Wind Waker isn’t given enough credit… I think too many people let the different visuals bother them. But hey, anyway you slice it was a quality game, with a lottt of material. I think it’s the longest, if I’m not mistaken? I know OOT may have more dungeons but I spent a lot longer on Wind Waker… and I was rushing it.

EzraSmith said on May. 29, 2009

Wind Waker has an artificial length, because it has a waste wasteland as its main map. Get past that, it’s short and easy though.

M-Warrior said on May. 29, 2009

This seems about right. Though I like Wind Waker more than Twilight Princess.
I sure hope Ocarina of Time isn’t number 1, or even in the Top 5, like in so many other lists. That game is so overrated and is usually high because of the damn thing called “nostalgia”.
(What has the world come to? A hardcore Zelda fan liking Wind Waker AND Majora’s Mask and a bunch of handheld Zelda over the three typical favorites: Ocarina of Time, Twilight Princess, and A Link to the Past)
But anyway, my Zelda fanboyism is getting ahead of itself.
I know this won’t happen, but I think Mother 3 should be very high in the list. What an incredible game…

EzraSmith said on May. 30, 2009

I’d put Ocarina of Time in the Number Five, that’s for sure. It’s one of the best ever. Though, many Zelda games are deserving on the very top of a list, like Link’s Awakening and such. However, there’s a few stinkers in the series.

mike k said on May. 30, 2009

Personally I would put Wind Waker very near the top, probably in the top 3. I thought it was the best zelda game. It has the best graphics and some of the best music (earthbound his hard to beat) of any game ever.

Leirin said on May. 30, 2009

I’m also surprised Super Mario RPG isn’t higher. And yet they put Mario Kart over that? Wow, why…

EzraSmith said on May. 31, 2009

My last comment on Wind Wanker, the graphics kind of reminded me of colourful puke (which I’ve seen a lot of). The music and everything else wasn’t anything special. It’s definitely underwhelming for a Nintendo game. They got it right of course with the next one.

SoreThumb said on Jun. 2, 2009

This site uses external image hosting. IT can’t be trusted.

JeebusMcChrist said on Jun. 7, 2009

I hate video games and think there are no good games in the world and personally all of the games here are overrated, bad, ugly, stupid, worthless, dumb, pointless, and most of all OVERRATED.

We shouldn’t even talk about video games because they’re the most worthless stupid thing ever for idiots. And Twilight Princess was awful because I read about it once and thought it would be different but it was the same and I was SCARED.

In conclusion, video games are bad and lists are great.

The end.

RCat said on Jun. 9, 2009

I can’t let such a stupid post from somebody with a stupid name be the last post here. So I’ll just state that Pokemon G/S/C is way better than God of War.

meh said on Jun. 18, 2009

earthbound is a great game, but following all 11 of the actual ff series plus the square spinoffs, earthbound is around 25th in rpgs and 80th in games of all time, flame away fanboys.

Deraj626 said on Jun. 18, 2009

The Legend of Zelda: Orciana of Time came in 1st. I have it on VC and it’s a pretty good game. If you have 1,000 Wii points, you should buy it. Also, it’s sequel, Majora’s mask, came in 14th and recently came out for VC :p. It’s also 1,000 Wii points so you should get it too.

Lost Hero said on Oct. 1, 2009

JMC: … you’re kidding right? You’re ON A GAME FANSITE.
That’s like shouting that you love meat in the middle of a Vegetarian Club meeting.

Anyways, while TP is up for debate, I’d say it was okay.
What was missing was some… uniqueness. It really just felt like a remake of every other Zelda game. With a twist, of course. TWW was unique in its visual style, setting, and (almost all) characters. While the sailing got on my nerves every one and a while, I thought it was one of the more original attempts I’ve seen from Nintendo in a long while.

Though personally, I like Majora’s Mask most of all. =)

BB said on Nov. 1, 2009

I hate to say it but I despise recent zeldas.(and Ocarina for that matter)WW will always be my favorite.

Ninji said on Nov. 23, 2009

In my opinion EB should place #25 best game ever, mainly cause 25 is an AWESOME number, my most favorite!!

nassing ness said on Apr. 18, 2011

eb for the win!

MrSaturn03 said on Jul. 17, 2011

Well, alot of numbers on that list should be changed.

Halo shouldn’t even be in the 20’s….Wind Waker should DEFINITLEY be above Twilight Princess….Super Mario Bros should be in front of ALOT…does anyone remember what that game DID?!

Earthbound doesn’t deserve #1 but it is good that it was this close…

SuperLuigi64Fan said on Aug. 13, 2011

Wow, Earthbound got number 28? Awesome! Even though I never played it (even though I really want to), I looked it up and saw videos of it and seems like a really good game. I can’t believe Earthbound was 113th on that other list but 28 on this list! It’s also pretty weird but I’m 12 and I like old-school games better than new games, and personally I think that Call of Duty nor Halo should be on this list. Also’ why so much hate for twilight princess and wind waker? Those are pretty good games in my book.

SuperLuigi64Fan said on Aug. 13, 2011

Oops! Just realized I commented on a 2 year old thread. Sorry!

Pkstarfox said on Dec. 2, 2012

I’m just gonna say this, I felt (in my opinion) that ww had problems I of course loved the graphics and I would like to point out one crucial detail… WHERE ARE THE FLIPPING ZORAS!? I mean, even tp has them, for nintendo to have a race of creatures that live in water and NOT include them in a game of the same series where the same world is COVERED IN WATER is insulting. but as for the games sequels, I feel as though St was an unnecessary game that we didn’t need and PH was good but the execution was lacking… though twilight princess was trying waaaay to hard to be dark like MM I do feel like the wolf portions were fun and the characters were well developed, but we all know how tp succeeded, being able to beat Ganondorf with a FISHING POLE!!!

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