The Scene that Inspired Giygas

I can see how someone would mistake it for rape. creepy stuff. thanks for the vid and translation.

Rumors of the movie that Itoi saw when he was a kid went from, “it was a porno” to “it was a rape scene”, which was slightly closer to the truth, yet still not completely there. I’m glad we have this video now as visual proof. This will certainly put a few debates to rest.

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Hey, I thought he promised boob squish.

Heh, yeah, even that wasn’t correct in his memory.

I think very likely if I had seen this as a child, I wouldn’t have had any idea what was going on. It’s a bit too indirect for my ability to grasp when I was ten.

Well this now means false rape scene tramua at young age means awesome game?
Anyway interesting

Well, the strangling would creep ANYONE out.

and if he saw the dismemberment….

Notice how the lady twists the grass in her hand as she dies. That’s probably the scene Itoi misremembered.

Maybe, but he specifically mentioned some kind of boob-grabbing and how it turns into a ball shape. Oh well, it doesn’t really matter, I’d be shocked if I remembered a movie in detail after 50 years

I wonder if he’ll get around to watching it again. I bet it’d be really trippy to get an accurate beginning to end perspective to the whole scene that had once traumatized you.

I wonder if the pplz who directed this movie knows that it traumatized Itoi and created Giygas. XD

I dunno, they’re probably long dead or extreeemely old by now.

Well I dunno, you do see a fair amount of her chest, and the guy’s pretty grabby in the scene, generally speaking. I don’t think his memory is TOO far off, especially without knowing the context of the scene.

Very interesting! I’ve officially done more studying about a 14 year old game than I have any school work I’ve had for the past 19 years.

It is certainly a bit odd how he only uncovers her slightly.

In my view of that part. The man trick her that he is having sex but instead choke her so that is why she is uncover only slightly and that will make it kinda like a porno if he do it all the way

Wonderful!
It’s quite interesting to see a old Japanese film without any reputation out of it’s country (which is never the case of old Japanese subtitled films).

It’s really a tough call to say if I would be traumatized by such a thing at 5-10 years old. Truth be told I would have never watched this at around that age region.

1. Cause it’s black and white and I didn’t see any
merit in such films at the time

2. That’s not the kind of movie I’d ever be allowed to see (considering I’ve never snuck in to see a movie in my life).

I certainly found Giygas more frightening (though I don’t think I faced him by myself before age 13-ish usually watched my brother play. So I also had the spoiler knowledge on precisely how to defeat Giygas). Particularly the walking up the entrails of the nightmare machine. That still kind of grosses me out.

It’s interesting that over time our nightmares grow as we do. So the imposing shadow stands just as high over us as when we were 2 1/2 feet tall.

I’m very glad I stopped having nightmares a long time ago. Closest thing I get now are REALLY weird dreams that I forget five minutes later…

Unclever title:
1. This was made in a time period where a majority of movies movies were in black and white, I believe.
2. He accidentally walked into the wrong movie. He didn’t sneak in.

I understand number 1, but my point is I didn’t live in that time period making it less likely for me. If I were to see a cultural equivalent film that was in theaters in my youth at then yes, I’d probably be scared witless, but due to the progression of time and culture it would also be a worse and more frightening film even if it’s still very borderline. I feel like that came out in a confusing way… but I’m not too sure how to further clarify. Hmm…

Thanks for the clarification on #2 I remembered the story incorrectly.

It would creep me out, but I wouldn’t have been traumatized.

Here’s on thing that’s always gotten me about the whole Giygas thing.

Are the lines that Giygas says during the battle lifted from the movie? What is the meaning behind them? Is there even any meaning behind them?

No, his text isn’t from the movie. Like Itoi said in the interview, the text was only meant to evoke the same feelings in the player that this scene evoked in him.

Well, if he thought it was rape, he probably would have known what is was in the first place. Also, the way the cop grabbed her shoulder may have looked like the cop grabbing her tit. And that shrieking sound is VERY suggestive of rape…

well seeing as I saw Akira around that age than no it wouldn’t have Traumatized me….

I can understand why Ito mistaked it for rape, that was kinda scary.

I would not be traumatized if I was over 7

I haven’t played earthbound for a while btw but how did this influence giygas

I think around 1:56 when the body is lying there about to be pulled away serves as a primary inspiration.

I’m just learning about the backstory behind the game…interesting stuff. Of course it’s hard to say whether I’d be traumatized by something like this at that age, or rather it’s hard to say if it’s even possible to make a fair comparison in the first place.

Kids are pretty desensitized to a lot of things in movies now that would have been considered shocking to adults of that time period…hell, stuff that freaked ME out at that age probably wouldn’t even phase my nephew today, and that’s only a 20 year gap.

I had a similar experience watching Watership Down as a kid. This scene (at the start of the clip) terrified me and gave me nightmares:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkU1lyvPn_A

I can understand how that other movie scene scared Itoi enough as a kid to inspire Giygas…the implications are pretty horrifying. He has sex with her (scary enough to a very young boy), strangles her, then saws her dead body apart. Imagine that happening to Mommy.

Around that age, I was traumatized by two things I saw on TV. 1) A movie I don’t know the name of where a guy was being strangled by a possessed waterhose 2) A TV show where a guy was tied down to a bed being injected with some kind of poison while his killer watches and sings karaoke at the same time. So yes, this scene would probably traumatize me most likely out of not being able to understand the context.

Shigesato Itoi was traumatized by this movie as a young child. He wanted people to experience what he experienced by creating Giygas.

What Itoi had was a false memory of the scene. The lack of understanding at what was going on when he first saw it must have been filled in via association (touching + strangling = rape) as he got older, and from there he unconsciously invented the other details.

It’s a very common phenomena with childhood experiences, and I bet all of you have remembered something that didn’t really happen the way you thought it did.